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Hi all, im a little rusty at warhammer having not played for over 13 years so i have a quick question for all you pro orc player types.....whats the best upgrade for a unit of Big Un's, extra choppa, shield or both? thanks in advance
Really depends on what else you're taking.
If you have certain other tarpit units, give the extra choppas. two S5 attacks each can cause some damage. Most other armies need great weapons to get them.
Or, if you do need a tough unit, give them shields. They save decent saves against basic missile fire and they are T4 with a 4+ armor save in combat, definately hard to kill.
It depends on who your fighting against horde armies ie. skaven, possibly empire, O&G, Beasts, and undead take extra weapon for more attacks if fighting shooty armies elves, dwarves, empire take sheilds if fighting really tough armies chaos, brettonians dont take either just get more troops
how can u take a extra weapon and sheild????? do your orcs have 3 arms?
I'm not a fan of Big 'Uns on foot. I feel that they cost too much compaired to regular orcs for the advantages they get, and arn't that much cheaper then a unit of black orcs which get even more advantages. I usualy stick with normal orcs with sword and board, and then use the black orcs for my killing power.
They are able to take extra HW and shield, they can just only use one at a time. For a generic list, id say just go with the extra weapon. The shield will give a 5+sv vs shooting, and often this will be negated with S4, amour piercing etc.
In combat its Kills they will be looking for. Against weaker enemies, the extra HW wil be more beneficial obviously. At first it seems like Shields may be better against better armoured troops, but better armour usually means better stats, so they will have a decent S and be lowering your save anyway. Hence why I say in cases like this, always go for the extra attacks.
I would say to go with the extra choppa, as going from 1 to 2 attacks is extremely useful. I still think it sucks that you can't get black orc big 'uns.
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I personally think Big Un's make the unit too expensive. Unless you're dying to get a magic banner and don't want a bsb, then maybe.