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Just curious...I haven't used an Apocalypse class battleship for my Imperial Navy yet, but was wondering if I should get one. Has anyone played with one? How do all those lances fare on a battleship?
Success stories? Failures? Let's hear 'em!
Oh, and I just ordered some Falchion class escorts...any news on their playstyle in the field?
Thanks for reading
Personally i strongly dislike the apocalypse...its lances are too short ranged and hardly enough to qualify as serious firepower, and if it extends them to 60cm then the thruster crit does not only disable its maneuvering abilities if you fail to repair it, but it also causes the usual permanent one damage point.
It's only real strenght is that your opponent won't have an easy time to get it braced, so its nova cannon can fire very often. But on the contrary the nova cannon has a minimum range, whereas the broadside weapons are shorter ranged. It might be very difficult to bring both to bear at the same time.
I think the model looks really cool, so I bought it anyway. The nova cannon proved very useful, though I suppose other ships have them, when it did power up the lances to shoot with them it was so badly damaged with enemies all around it was just a last ditch sacrifice and managed to destroy an enemy ship before destroying itsthe explosion killing another enemy ship.
It probably isn't the best ship to take for the reasons ArchonAstaroth said, but I still like it and will take it occasionally instead of my emperor or in larger battles with the emperor.
Oh yeah, I used falchions as well but I cannot remember what they did or how they worked. In my battles so far the escorts seem to get blown to bits without any trouble before they have a chance to do anything, so I'm considering not using any.
So the consensus is that the Apocalypse, while looking cool, still doesn't even compare to the usefulness of the Emperor. So, where does the Retribution fit into that?
Would you take an Apocalypse over a Retribution, or the other way around. I was looking at the Retributions stats. They're not so bad, plus its faster than the Emperor. I've never used a Retribution either, but regarded it as inferior because most other BFG players do.
If the Emperor is the best, which ship comes in second over the least useful battleship?
My own list:
The Oberon is like the Emperor, but more guns and less launching ^_^ More to my style of play, definitely, and also the cheapest of the four. Retribution isn't *bad*, imo, it just isn't the best. But I'd take one any day over an Apocalypse.
To be honest, I think Battlecruisers are better than Battleships. I don't own any Battleships, and after proxied games with them, I don't think I ever will ^_^
Basically, it's got half the launch power, but has side lances as well as the side/prow/dorsal weapons batteries that the Emperor has. And cheap enough to fit another Escort in.
I'll stick to my good old Legatus Stygies though, its additional launch bays have served me better than two more broadside lances.
The name "Emperor Class" is a huge coolness bonus too
Damn, I didn't even know about the Oberon class, and I thought I was soaking up BFG info like a sponge. Thanks for letting me know about it mEGALOMANIAC. Do you have any links to its pictures or stats? I'd love to have a look at that behemoth, and maybe add it to my fleet.
I know what you mean about an over-emphasis on Battleships, though. Everyone wants to have one cause they're just the biggest, most powerful, etc. blah, blah, blah...fleet centrepiece...blah, blah, blah...
But I've known some BFG players to centre their fleets around their command ship, or are wary of committing it to battle, like they're protecting it. As we know, centreing your battle plan on one ship will rarely, if ever, work. I think many BFG players rely on their heaviest ship too much, instead of seeing the value of having more, slightly less powerful ships. A lot can be said for having greater numbers than your opponent in this game. Those who believe a lone ship will lead them to victory have been watching too much Star Trek, where the hero ship singlehandedly wipes out an enemy fleet and shrugs off even the gravest of damage. BFG is more realistic...no ship is an island, as it were, and they must support one another to win.
Armada, page 13. The model for it is just the Apocalypse model w/o Nova cannon, and 1 battery, 1 lance, and 1 launch bay (in that order from the prow).Damn, I didn't even know about the Oberon class, and I thought I was soaking up BFG info like a sponge. Thanks for letting me know about it mEGALOMANIAC. Do you have any links to its pictures or stats? I'd love to have a look at that behemoth, and maybe add it to my fleet.
Probably the least used Battleship for Imperials, unless there's an even more obscure one that was in one of the magazines once...