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Does anyone own any of the Imperial Voss pattern ships, beyond the Falchion or Apocalypse/Oberon?
I'm talking about the Endurance, Endeavour, and Defiant class cruisers that were in BFG Magazine 12. I've heard rumours that you can't buy them because the Voss pattern prow broke the mould and GW didn't want to spend more money on another. This sounds a little farfetched to me, but I've never seen any of the Voss pattern cruisers. Shame, cause they look awesome.
(for those that don't know, the Voss pattern prow is the prow with a giant eagle on the top --- it looks like a crescent as opposed to a Greek trireme bow).
What I'd heard was that they broke more than one mold, so GW gave up on them. I doubt they'd stop an entire line of products because of one lost mold.I've heard rumours that you can't buy them because the Voss pattern prow broke the mould and GW didn't want to spend more money on another.
I also heard that they were just going to use the new Mars pattern prows now instead of retrying the Voss molds. I really liked the Voss though, and the Mars just seems too un-Imperial to me.
It's a pity that the Dauntless model doesn't have standard sized weapons bays so that we could just swap them and play with the new classes of ships anyways. Anyone know if any (relatively simple) conversions have been done using the Dauntless model for this purpose?
What a shame...those cruisers rocked. And what of these new mars-pattern ships? I haven't seen them yet. You know, though: I might just keep things simple and stick with my standard BFG list and not get into all the other stuff.
Grand cruisers, the new Battleships...its all good, but maybe not for me.
Gah, I found the link on another forum, GW released images of the new Mars prows over the summer/fall sometime. But of course, that forum is giving me problems right now. I'll try and find the link to the pics later tonight.
http://www.dysartes.com/rumours/specgames/...ll/impships.jpgHere's a (bad) picture of the new prows. They're just squared off regular prows. There's debate over whether we're getting alternate Imperial Cruiser boxes or if they're completely new ships or what. Also goes in line with the rumored 40K summer campaign of the Dragon on Mars waking up, because a Mars-prow would suggest we're getting a BF:Terra-type list!
Yeah, those Mars-pattern ships aren't bad. I could definitely see them as the fleet that is in charge of the defence of Terra. Their square prows give more of a blocky, utilitarian feel to them, like they're not messing around with style and are tougher than the average Imperial ship, like Will J said.
Oh, and if GW is releasing a Battlefleet Terra list, it makes you wonder if they have something ominous looming on the horizon as far as campaigns go, like an attack into Segmentum Solar space itself....
I don't think GW would release a summer campaign that really focused around BFG at all. I'm sure that the fluff would be there, but they tend to let Specialist Games take care of their own products now. But the rumored campaign for this summer is the Dragon on Mars reawakening, which means it'll be an Imperium/Necron-heavy campaign. If thats true, then it would make a good excuse for SG to redo and enlarge the Necron fleets (from raiding fleets to war fleets, ya know?) and to release the new Mars ships and a BF:Terra list. I have to say, that would rock hardcore.
You've also got to realise that Sol is near enough to both Segmentum Tempestus and Segmentum Pacificus, and inside Segmentum Solar, that any fleet from those areas could easily be composed of mainly Mars pattern ships. So the new prows don't necessarily imply anything occuring near Terra itself. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed ^_^
Are you sure the rumoured campaign deals with the 3rd C'tan awakening? When does that happen, fluffwise? I know that in the fluff, we are currently at the end of the 41st millenium and so if new events unfold in further campaigns, that will take us into the 42nd millenium.
If that is the case, I'm looking forward to it. I heard a nasty rumour that GW wanted to keep all stories before the 42nd millenium and thus would be reaching back into imperial history for future campaigns. I can't say I like the sound of that. In other words, what the rumour implies is that the story ends with M41.999, and any new campaigns or fluff will detail other events that have happened before that.
I sincerely hope that GW has decided against this course of action and will push on to M42. I want to see what happens next! Some stories are just starting. It would be a shame if they put the kill on them.
Some stories that could flourish if GW continues to tell the 40k story in a linear fashion include:
1. The Necrons gaining power and making their first major moves to dominate the galaxy.
2. Another Chaos campaign; we'll get to see what Abbadon's next move is, now that he pretty well controls Cadia.
3. More Tyranid Hivefleet incursions and their implications.
4. The 4th war for Armageddon; will Orks, humans, or some other race finally claim victory on that blasted world?
5. Altansar; the fabled Eldar craftworld that was swallowed by the Eye of Terror reemerges for good or evil purposes.
6. The resolution to a number of characters and their histories; what becomes of Creed, Calgar, Ghazgkull, and all the other characters that currently inhabit the 40k universe?
7. And of course, new races or wars introduced; new threats to the Imperium should only be addressed if the story continues linearly; to go back into known history and say "oh yeah, there was this race fighting the Imperium all along" seems like a cop-out.
I wouldn't have borne this rumour any weight except that it supposedly came from the mouth of one of GW's big men in an interview. Hope its not true, and that your rumour is mEGALOMANIAC.
I honestly have no idea about the legitimacy of the Dragon on Mars rumor. Personally, I'd think GW would steer clear of that one, as it would basically make the Adeptus Mechanicus have to choose sides between the Imperium and the (rumored) Machine God. That would destroy the fluff and all the Imperial army books out there, I'd think. I doubt the next one'd be another Crusade, as they just got done with the most recent one. Same idea with Armageddon, it's too recent.
I'd actually lean towards the Nids. They're a threat that EVERY army in the game would fight, and IIRC another Hive Fleet is just starting to emerge. That, plus the fact that Nids new codex is due out soonish, and that Nids are now in the starter box. That would be good, it would inspire people to play Nids in BFG (just to see a whole Hive Fleet on the table!.