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I'm continually building some sort of fleet (right now stuck on Necron --- can't find the time to finish it), and wanted to ask if anyone has any stories, tips, or tricks as to how building a BFG fleet is different from doing an army for Warhammer.
Afterall, these ship models are different from anything in 40k. The level of detail is astounding on most ships, to convey a greater scale. The problem is that working with this level of detail is often difficult. Of course, as far as painting goes, one could go the super-easy route and spray paint with different colours, as is suggested in the BBB. The other usual approach is drybrushing. And then there is the more tedious task of painting each part of the ship, detail by detail, by hand. Has anyone opted for that last method?
When painting a Warhammer 40k mini, one can take the time to paint all of its little details because there aren't too many. For an Imperial battleship, however, there are hundreds if not thousands of nooks and crannies. What are your methods?
Also, for naming your fleet: who does and how do you do it? That question might sound silly, but I contemplated leaving my ships nameless, so that they could represent different ships in various campaigns in the future. But then, the need to personalize my fleet took over and I gave them names, starting with the Imps. I chose to name my Imperial ships after their own mythology and also used names similar to their other ships, so as to represent sister ships. I know many players use old navy ship names, or draw upon ancient history, such as naming a cruiser the Achilles or Apollo. Where do you draw your inspiration from?
Fielding a BFG fleet is very different from fielding a 40k army. Not only are you fielding less than half the minis you normally would, but there are plenty of little quirks and characteristics that make it different. Let us all know if you have any stories about making the transition from General to Admiral.
Well, I only just finished painting my first fleet (a no-SM Battlefleet Armageddon!, so I doubt I'll have any sagelike advice, but hey, why not ^_^
For the painting, I took a combination of methods. Sprayed black, then sprayed lighter with fortress grey (3rd party spray, but it's the same color). Ironically enough, the grey ends up looking very close to the bare plastic ^^. Because I sprayed lightly with the grey, the inner areas are still black, and the outer areas are speckled in some places (you'd have to get within a foot or so to notice the speckling), which to me looks awesome. Also, as a side effect of how I sprayed them, the undersides are a lot darker (couldn't get the spray can at the right angle, so the bottoms are a shade right in between fortress grey and black. Prows are snot green, and the edging/eagle on the prow is shining gold. When I first started painging them, I couldn't find any of my grey metallic paints, so I just used gold for all the detail work, and I have to say, I love how they came out. I'm not the best painter - I fail at all the blending and shading and whatnot. But BFG ships, at least the Imperial ones, just work for some reason. Most of the details I painted gold were raised, which makes them simpler. There's no blending tones for me, since all my shadowing was done with the spraypaints. I've seen better fleets, but I've seen MUCh worse ones too. I'd give myself a 7 or 8 out of 10 on this one. Still have to paint the Escorts though (didn't have superglue handy either, so all these metal escorts are lying w/o bases still!, not sure if I'm going to use the same scheme or try and reverse it (green ship, grey prow). Probably will keep the same scheme since it came out so nicely, might add stripes to the prows of the escorts though.
As for naming, I can't keep myself serious! I know players with 40K-fluff names, greek mythology names, etc. Myself, I like fun ones. When assembling the ships, I ended up gluing my Tyrant to my left hand (was holding a bit on to dry, apparently was messy with the glue). The Tyrant's name? "The Dreadship Left Hand". Inventive? No. Funny (to me)? Yes. ^_^
I was wondering what you guys do with your bases? Mine are black (as a result of gluing before spraypainting). I'm considering painting four marks on the bases to mark out the BFG compass (you know, dividing the ship into prow, starboard, etc) so that I don't need to refer to the compass all the time. Nothing painfully obvious, probably just a snot green tick or dag at each point, so it's subtle and matches the ship. One of my friends told me I shouldn't mark the compass out because it gives an advantage to the other player (I don't see it though). Also, how do you get your ship names on the bases? I'm way too sloppy to hand paint it!
I think painting the compass on the base is a good idea actually, it doesn't give your opponent an advantage since they can use a compass and check anytime. I was thinking of making some kind of grid for the battlefield to make moving and turning easier.
Anyway, for naming ships I haven't yet. I would just try to hand paint it on, though I'm not very good either. For painting them, I would start with a basecoat and drybrush and/or ink then pick out little bits of detail where needed. Should be fairly fast and look good enough.
I haven't really thought much about being an Admiral rather than a general, it sounds much better IMO but I still play fantasy a fair bit so I'm half general half admiral. It is a lot different, BFG is very unique. I'm going to have to give more time to it, I'm a bit stuck for opponents still though.
My entire fleet is painted black, to disapear in the darkness of space!
I don't really like space ships with lots of colors, it just doesn't seem right. Basic paint scheme is:
- black spray;
- heavy chain metal drybrush;
- gold on imperial eagle and (in the BBs) on the emblems over the bridge;
- some red "dots" here and there, to mark running lights;Â´
- highlight frame of hangar entrances;
- paint torpedo tubes;
- in the flagships, painted prow of white and gold.
As for names, that is a REALL problem! Finding names for 2-3 dozens of ships is not easy... a lot easier is for the fleet itself.
A tip for imperial escort names: considering the size of the Empire, I don't think that the escorts would have names, so I gave them hull numbers instead: DD-313, FF-445, etc.
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im naming my IN fleet after all my favorite beers, no bud light or anything, all the microbrews i like
chaos is gonna be easier, gonna open up dantes inferno and pick a bunch of evil latin words
as far as painting goes...theres so much fewer ships then 40k models so im gonna take my time and do em up nice
what a long strange trip its been
For escort pennenants, why not do what the Royal Navy does? D-44 for example (D for destroyer) F-229 (F for frigate) etc. As for names, i have a varied collection. For example, i use celestial names, high gothic, animals and second names etc. The three names i remember for some of my cruisers are Artemis, Falco and Dera Furorum.
for making up names for chaos i just make up names that sound mean and crule to your opponent but acctually they might have a quite funny meaning. like the black beast for instance it sounds sort of mean but it acctually comes from monty python.
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I've just started collecting an IN fleet and i've used names of moons for my ships e.g Callisto etc just do a quick search for planets in the solar system and you can find loads unusual names
I play Eldar Corsairs, and what I do is pick names from ships of the Royal Navy and put them on my capital ships. I don't name individual escorts, but I do name the squadrons after swords and knives.
As for how I painted my ships, I work out the larger details first then fill in the smaller stuff after. I love to paint the mast lines on the sails with some color that stands out against the solar sails.
We all know how massive and heavy battleships are, but my cruisers are pretty hefty too. I pin my capital ships to the stem with a section of brass wire by drilling a hole in the bottom of the model and in the stem with a pin vice and securing both ends with super glue. I just glued the escorts onto their bases, but I made sure the squadron leaders looked as different as possible. I have one Eclipse cruiser, and I made that look quite different during construction by mounting it on a short battleship stem on a cruiser/escort base.
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i do the same thing as Shas'el O'fen, i named my cruisers after 19th-20th century RN capital ships. for battlecruisers, grand cruisers, or battleships i would make up a name, like Hammer of the Emperor or something... by BC is easy, i used the Cypra Probatii upgrade so that saves me a name!!! ha ha
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