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    Why so unpopular?

    I know its not me, but I thought I might as well bring it up. As many of you may have noticed, the amount of BFG players is a mere decimal of that of 40k or warhammer. Why the heck is this so? I find this to be an interesting game. I mean what could be more fun than running an armada?


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    One of the reasons I see if the fact that it's only a specilized game (or whatever the term is) so when you walk into a store, your confronted with whole walls given over to WH40K and WFB and LOTR and maybe a shelf with the BFG starterr set and nothing more.

    Thats what it was like at the GW store in Montreal (or at least one of them...)

    I think it would be great to have a decent sized armada for each of my 40K armies so I could do some pretty neat campaigns. But I just don't have acess to the models and such unfortunetly.

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    Me and all of my hardcore friends have a BFG fleet to match each of our armies. We have even done scenario's where we play the fleet battle in space while we are playing the ground battle with regular 40k.

    IMO, BFG is one of the most well written games ever produced by GW. It doesn't have a lot of nasty rules clarifications and I've played several games without ever having to wonder just what the hell a specific rule actually means.

    All you really have to do is talk one of your buddies into buying a small fleet and they will probably be hooked. That's what happened to ME anyhow. Two of my friends were playing a Tyranid Fleet vs. a Chaos Fleet one day and it was a lot of fun to watch so I walked over to the counter and bought my first fleet right then.

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    I had an Imp fleet for a while. But nobody played, and the modeling oprotunitys were much less than 40K which is some of what I go for.
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    I think its because ultimatly the pace is slower than many of the other games, true it is more realistic but the effort that you have to go to get your ships in position and actually destroy another verssel. Not to mention the fact they can disengage yawn......

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    Before you have a go I have actually played alot of BFG in a huge campaign involving epic WH40K and fleet BFG. Some of the battles have been very enjoyable but others not so.....
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    As Miketehfox said, it just doesn't have a presence in the shops.

    In my GW there is the starter set and nothing more, yes a few people play but as there aren't the models on display people don't bother to look.

    As it is also a specialist game you can't walk into GW and get the models and that puts people off.

    Ultimately if GW made it a core game and it had the support I wouldn't be surprised if it became more popular, but as GW see that as a poor business decision we are going to have it as it is.

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    That's the whole point Outsider, it isn't a core game so naturally it isn't going to be as popular. I suppose that if you put all of the specialist games together they wouldn't be as popular as one of the core games. That's just how it works, always has and always will. GW seems to have accepted that, mainly because the speciallist games are a damn sight more complicated to play. If 40k faffed around with skills and money and all that noone would bother- thats why they have necromunda, to take a more indepth look at the fluff of the 40k universe.
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    The reason it's not a core game, is simply business related.

    A WarHammer or WH40k army cost several hundred dollars to complete. Even SM are far higher in numbers of models to any BFG fleet, which can be put together for less. My 1500 point IN fleet has a dozen "units", models, most of which cost an average ten dollars each (Battleship $35, each Cobra $2.50), plus four or five bottles of paint at three dollars each and a couple rule books at $30.00 each. My 1500 point IG army will, when finished, have 5 units, about 50 models. With several paints, templates, dice, the $40.00 rulebook and $30.00 codex, etc., it will be several hundred dollars just to get ON the board. Simple math, it makes sense to concentrate on model-heavy games.

    Bloodbowl or Inquisition, with their even smaller expense, are in the same boat.

    This means that these games get relegated to a footnote, not even available in the stores. Recently, Rogue Traders were told that they had to Bitz-order the specialist games items, which gives them very little profit margin compared to GW-Online. So... You just don't get the hype, the new models, the scenarios, etc. that the other games get.

    It doesn't mean it isn't a great game. It will simply never receive the hype. What GW doesn't realize, is that for many it's a "Gateway Drug" for their brand of plastic crack. I got involved with BFG due to it's low cost and cool factor... Now I have two fleets and am starting a third, and an IG 40k army to boot.

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    You know what I think would be pretty sweet? Doing that BFG thing with the ship, with the occasional bombardment coming in. Then use Epic to determine troop movements and 40k to deal with the actual battle. Take forever but would be pretty cool.
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    Or resolve BFG boarding actions with Space Hulk or Space Crusade, this also would be cool .

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