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I've been looking at taking up wargaming as a hobby for quite a while now. In fact, I've been doing quite a bit of work looking at WH40k for a year. However, I eventually realized that most of the game seemed to be in the army list and not in actual playing. It's a shame, too, since I liked making pieces of terrain for that game even though I never started playing it. So, I'd like to know about BFG.
I've read the rules myself a few times and they seem to be a lot simpler than the WH40k rules, but also allow for a more complex game. Is that true?
- How much of the game is determined by your deployment?
- How easy would it be to teach someone else the rules?
- How long would a 500pt game take?
- How costly is it?
- How large of a space is required to play?
- How long does it take to set up a game?
Your analysis of the rules is pretty accurate. A lot easier to understand, but lots of tactical depth to it and the possibility of a very complex game.
1. Not really heaps, since you can move ships back and forth 'through' each other fairly easily. It is a bit important of what you deploy with what.
2. Not long at all. Give them one of the reference sheets from the starter set, and they could probably follow the rules easier enough depending on how quickly they catch on.
3. 500 points is very small for BFG, and won't have much in it. You'll probably be best starting at having 4 cruisers each (maybe one being a battlecruiser), which is around 600-800 points, it doesn't matter if you don't have the same points as each other. 4 cruisers are generally evenly matched enough for the battle to go either way.
4. Probably the cheapest system there is, and faar cheaper than 40k or WHFB. You could easily pick up the starter box and pretty decent (~2000 point) fleets of chaos and Imperial for $500 or less. Try doing that with 40k.
5. About the same as standard 40k games, maybe a little bit more if you want to be able to manuevre more. The biggest need for space is in turning your ships, particularly battleships. They have a very large turning arc.
6. A lot less models than 40k, so a lot less time.
Thanks for your help! Based on what you said, I decided to play a cruiser duel against myself in Vassal. I'd say I like the game. Thanks for your help--but where would I find a starter box? Games Workshop doesn't seem to have them in their online store.
Ebay my friend, Ebay.
If you are in the US or UK you will have a much easier time getting stock direct from the Workshop, but if are like me and live down under or in some other back water nation then Ebay will save you. I saw a complete boxed game going a couple of days ago.
The GW online store should have them, depending on where you live.. There isn't any BFG in the Aus one, as Origin said. I did hear that the starter set is going out of print though..
I got all my BFG in one large order from an online hobby shop in the US. Prices were cheaper than GW, postage wasn't too bad and they got to me reasonably quickly. Just have a look around on the net, maybe even a local (military) hobby store might have a copy.
The only reason to buy the starter box is if you don't feel like printing out the templates and such from the PDFs and gluing them to cardstock yourself. This is because the boxed sets are no longer a bargin since they are selling for a premium over their original retail prices. Also, the rulebook in the boxed set is the old one, so you'd have to use the FAQ as well.
However, the PDFs on the site are up-to-date FAQwise, so no cross-referencing required!
Tip: If you are American, make sure you uncheck the box for fitting the printout to a single page. The British standard-sized paper is longer than our 8.5"x11" so it shrinks the blast markers and other bits.
So all the rules and templates are free, except for the price of your toner cartridge and paper. The cruisers you get with the game were a great bargin for $50, but not the $90 I've seen the game selling for on eBay lately.
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For buying models, I'd go with Ebay all the way. I picked up about 8000pts of Imperials for maybe $300. I would suggest getting the starter box though. The blast markers, templates, etc, that it comes with are priceless. My group got 3 of the boxes, and we still don't have enough of the blast templates, asteroids, torpedo's and such.
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Just wondered what "vassal" is?
is it some kind of simulator?
And yeah, ebay is the place for models....