Dipping

[King Ulrik Flamebeard]

Again I see dipping is a big subject, so please keep it confined to this single thread. So any tips, tricks or questions of dipping go here.

Here's the search results for dipping threads -

Dipping


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[consular]

Okay to dip I just hold em by the feet and dunk em in the paint jar just like a baby in water.

[Rengaw]

ehh, guess i should chime in here, dipping is a way of shading a model without a brush, letting the polyurathane collect in the cracks and blend the transition of color in the model. dipping makes normally static and bland colors have a depth to them that i liken to lamination if you have ever laminated something colorfull you would have seen the way it inhances colors, through a layer of plastic.

the original inspiration for the dipping process can be found here:
THE DIPPING OF HIVE FLEET AKUMA

since learning of the dipping process i have dipped a squad of 8 bloodletters using colors one shade too bright and generally cartoony, with gritty realistic results.

i have also dipped one brass black and red berzerker in a darker dip and now will be making a full squad out of gold spraypaint and blood red with various details picked out in different colors.

so far i own a paintcan full of:
minwax polyshades polyurathane satin antique walnut
which is perfect for natural living things but don't really look too good on armor
and i just bought
minwax polyshades polyurathane satin todor
which is an allmost black one that gave me very nice results on a marine.

i also plan on making other dipps using minwax polyurathane satin clear and inks bought from an art store.

first i'm going to make a really dark red using black and red ink to compair with the todor stuff i bought.

next i'll be making a green/black dipp for my new deathguard army. inspired by a suggestion by Wolfraider

also, the dipp is made from polyurathane, so makes for one of the best protective coatings you can have, it will increase the table life of your models paintjobs.

when you first get your dip, shake it up!! shake it well or it won't work period.
when you dip your first model don't cry, it'll look like you ruined it, like someone caked your 2 hour paintjob with mud, but get a good hold on the models base and flick him up and down rapidly, while doing this make sure your swinging him up and down and not side to side, cause the dip might get a little thicker on one side than the other, cause thats the side the extra dip is going to go to before it comes off, so like for instance on my bloodletters i held them hair down and flung downwards so just incase a little extra stayed on it would be in the hair where it looks good and won't effect the models detail.

i recommend you expiriment aswell, just make sure you post your results here for all to read.

[Jahannan]

I can't help but think this might be a *very* good idea for a Goblin army, given the excessive time it tends to take to paint the same figure as many times as I will have to in order to be capable of making a decent sized army. However, the dipping thread doesn't exist anymore, and from the looks of that page on dipping it appears that doing so might make my models look far too shiny for my liking.

So now I've just got a few questions:

1) Where could I get a good dip? What constitutes a good dip? Well I'm guessing polyurethane, and it looks like wood dips work well.

2) Does it work better on metallic models, or can it work well for plastics as well?

3) Uhmm. Would it actually look good on Goblins? Or is painting models the old fashioned way the only way to get a reasonable looking army with relatively low difficulty.

EDIT: Forgot to mention... I'm talking Warhammer Fantasy. And I'm planning on painting my army mainly with shades of purple and blue for the clothing, and standard green flesh.

[Rengaw]

so far, i've only used polyurathane wood stain. which is a stain & seal.

with goblins, i could see it working, but you're going to have to experiment. there skin has muscles and flowing lines so it would shade them very well, but it'll also shade clothing. so the question is what color would you like to shade there skin with that'd work on there clothes too? i'd allmost think that a lighter tan dip would work giving there skin a browning from the green, but those bright colors of there clothes would look considerably drabber. all my dips have darkened the color of the model about a shade. but you can see how that looks in hivefleet akuma.

so far, the only dips i can verify as good, is a polyurathane woodstain mix satin is the word for matte. but if you want it less shiny i bet a dull/superdull coat of clear polyurathane would dullen it.

i get the minwax polyshades from ace hardware.

i dipped plastic tyranids with great results, and metal bloodletters and metal berzerkers also with great results, metal or plastic, i don't think it matters.

someone showed me a page where someone painted urak-hai from lord of the rings with black dip, they were steel and brown, but they looked badass.

was that you that found that dipping article wolfraider? if so, we really need to link it up to this thread.

so, i can gurantee that a dip of the apropriate color would shade gobbo's skin nicely, only trouble will be finding a dip that'll shade gobbo skin & clothes the way you want.

[Jahannan]

Hmm. Maybe I should just try sticking to the more traditional colours for Goblins - Brown, black and chainmail. Sure, it's not flashy, but I bet it'd do the trick.

Luckily though, I'm only building a 500 point army at first, and in my army plan that means I should have an extra 10 or so Goblins to mess around with. The only real commitment I'm faced with is contemplating buying purple paints. But that's a discussion for another time, maybe when I have a *tiny* bit more time available to me I'll start up a thread to see if anyone with lots of experience painting Goblins has any comments on my painting scheme.

[Forger of Civilization]

I've got an IG army I've been working on. So far I have just been dry brushing my vets with graveyard earth and am planning on doing this to the other 90 members of my army. Does dipping provide a better look for soldiers or should I keep dry brushing? Would flat get better results for the dirt-y look?

[red120]

How did the guy do his whole 1500 point army in an hour??.. I don't get it.. he had THAT many paint pots unused?

I mean, it takes more than a day to dry, right?..

Also, how do you guys think this would work for a Chaos fantasy army? Would it look.. reasonably good? I am planning a mainly white theme with shades of blue and purple.. I think.. although it seems like bad colors, I am still thinking. Would this dipping technique add those extra good shades?

[Rengaw]

dipping seems to work best on stuff you want to be dark. cause when you're done dipping, well it'll be dark.

and he only uses empty pots cause he's too cleanly to just grab the base and dip em. thats what i do, i got polyurathane splotches all over my hands right now.

i think one of the best armies for dipping would be a red khorne daemon army, cause godamn my bloodletters look good.

[gundamfan]

I'm doing ultramarines, and I need a quick way to paint em. I doubt the wood stain would work, though, it's brown. I'm not sure if I will dip it..

Anyway, the real reason I posted. I have a friend who is beginning to play, and he is starting a tyranid army. He is extremely lazy, thoguh. He doesn't care too much about painting. He even thinks I'm crazy because I care so much about getting my army painted. Anyway, he tells me that his army will be grey body, red carapace. I doubt brown wood stain would work, would black ink work? He needs a quick way to paint to inspire him to actually do it.

BTW, he's so lazy that he even waits on eBay for pre-assembled models, and then he buys those.