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Old March 27th, 2005, 02:01   #1 (permalink)
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I tried using inks, and the results were ok, but I'm really having trouble with flesh wash ink. I tried it on one of my scout's faces, and it was almost completely ruined! I spent a lot of time on the facial details, like pupils and teeth.
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Old March 27th, 2005, 05:18   #2 (permalink)
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For my Flesh faces, I use a solid coat of dwarf flesh followed by a light coat of flesh wash then i let it dry (may take a while). Then ill dry brush elf flesh over that... Then pick out the detail. Hope that helps. Anybody else got any good techniques?
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Old March 27th, 2005, 18:55   #3 (permalink)
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how do you exactly do a light coat of flesh wash? When i use it on dwarf flesh, it turns a very different color. i have a technique that kinds works. i paint on some dwarf flesh, flesh wash it, then lightly drybrush it with more dwarf flesh. any one else have a tip or trick?
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Water it down (mix some water into the ink so it isn't so strong).
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I find that for white faces, bronzed flesh works better than dwarf flesh as a basecoat. I then do a thinned down wash of flesh wash ( thinned with water 50/5. Then I highlight with bronzed flesh followed by elf flesh. I think that this works very well, but here is a pic of mine to show you the result
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When are you doing the ink washes? Are you doing it after you paint the eyes and teeth? I would recommend doing your basecoat of flesh, then do your ink wash, followed by your highlights, eyes, teeth etc.

You may also want to look at using a brown ink rather than flesh - especially in the eye sockets. Then paint the eyes white leaving just a small ring of brown ink around the eyes. Then put the pupils in. They will stand out much better. Flesh wash tends to be more yellow in its tint.

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Thanks guys. i have a good idea now. actually, i just finished a model in which he had his entire left face burned or damaged somehow...all i know is that it looks cool.
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Like some of the others said, ink washes are generally best done earlier on in the painting process, prior to doing any detailing.

I would say the process I usually do goes something like: basecoat, ink, drybrushing/highlights, and then pick out individual details. The ink after the basecoat will give the recessed areas the shading they need, and then the highlights will bring color back to the more raised areas. When it comes to faces, or just skin in general, I apply a basecoat (I use Vallejo's dwarf flesh equivalent...I think it may still be called dwarf flesh, not sure) to the face and paint the entire eye black. I then apply a wash of flesh wash to the whole face. I then highlight areas with elf flesh -- cheekbones, lips, area over the eyes, etc, leaving the lower areas with the dwarf flesh+flesh wash color. After that, I dot the corners of the eyes with white and do any other details that I want. You can also use another shade or two for the face if you want it to be a bit more detailed, so you can have some areas that are more of a midtone and then another that serves as a highlight.

The other time I use inks is when doing things like black/darklining, or sometimes when drawing a clear divide between certain parts on a model (armor crevices, or, like on a recent model, putting a black line between each bullet on an ammo belt for a chaos marine). In these instances, I get a small amount of the ink on a detail brush and lightly drag it across the area I want the line to appear -- a very controlled application of the ink, as opposed to the washing effect that you use when applying it to provide shading to a model.
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thin a lot.
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well ink washes work fantastically. always (for washing) have a part ink and 2 parts water 1:2
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