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I cant wait for Rome Total War- Time commanders was a great TV show and the actual game looks like being the business. Im actually looking forward to this more than DoW--heresy!!!
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Well if R:TW requires you to gather resources and building towns and all that boring crap than I will have to say I'd go for DoW since it is more of an immediate action sort of game without all the previously mentioned boring crap.
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I'm not too shure but aren't all the Total War games just about the battle? But anyway they are two diffrent types of games DoW is more fast paced with more focus on the action, where as Rome Total War is alot more stratigic and slower pasted.
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well ive got medieval total war, and its great the battles are very very realisttic and intense the resource gathering is not the be all and end all 0f the game and you can do quick battles without doing it anywhey
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I like the Total War series as they do address both the long term strategic aspect, as well as the immediate battle. Both these are an essential part of warfare. Itâ€™s all very well fighting a winning battle, but what if your side is losing the war...
The battles are well realised and the order system nicely thought out. The piles of tiny bloody corpses bring it home that warfare in Medieval Japan or Europe was not a tidy Hollywood style punchup. The different troop types have different roles and are worth treating with appropriate respect.
And Rome: Total War looks to be a wet dream for an old Tabletop Ancient wargamer like myself. Yes, I adored Time Commanders on BBC2 and loved the interaction of the civilian Generals and Lieutenants. Twas the best TV show over the last 12 months, IMHO.
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Shogun Total War was my favourite game for a long time.
And then Medieval total war was my favourite game for ages.
As for R:TW vs. DoW i'll probably get both
Excuse my ignorance but what is DoW? (Sorry, just found out it's Dawn of War...)
Time commanders was excellent, but I always manages to miss the good episodes. Is there a way I could get my hands on the complete series?
Finally, did anyone notice that the custom battles in Shogun TA were a bit short?
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I don't think DOW will be as good a RTW. Shogun is one of the best games I have ever played, I don't like medieval that much. I'll get DOW anyway though.
Rome will be better for the following reasons [though I will get them both]:
1. Look at GWI's record, it sucks. Then look at the Total War series, they are the best RTS games ever [closely followed by Warcraft III].
2. In the DoW campaign you can play as the Space Marines, and that's it. In Rome there will be 3 Roman tribes I believe plus countless other factions, all playable in the campaign.
3. DoW will be about combat, excellent combat but thats it. The strategic element for the Total War games was excellent, nothing like the complex and dull resource systems of the AoE games, you are the king and you make all the decisions a king would make, and they are as fun as the brilliant real time combat. Also in Rome there will be the options to just have battles with no resource gathering at all.
4. The graphics are about the same, though DoW's animations are a bit better. But Dow you can have 100 men, in Rome you can have 100 men in one unit, big battles are far more impressive!
Time Commanders as a programme was poor, the presenter was an arsehole, the players for the large part were painfully incompetent [legionaries against chariots 1 rank deep in tetseudo formation I seem to remember, what were they thinking!]. Until they had a proper computer map the blocks were useless. The stupid VICTORY/DEFEAT IMMENENT voice was pointless, annoying and very un-Roman. Then the Rome engine was bloody amazing, and Dr Nussbacher's historical insights were interesting.
Hmm, feels abit unfair to compare these two games as they have so diffrent aspects of rpgs.
But, I think I would choose R:TW over DoW as I like that series alot.I need to correct that, it isn't the best RTS games ever, that would be Ground Control closely followed by Civilisation.they are the best RTS games ever [closely followed by Warcraft III].