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Had a similar thread on the Bretonnian list, but realising it will probably fit better here and more people are likely to give it a glimpse. Well, a bit about me first. I am 25, new to LO, and recently returned to the world of Wargaming, though did used to play a lot in younger years up to about 18. However I did always enjoy the modelling side of things and painting more, and joining that with my natural north of england cheapness and genuine student budget lack of funding, am trying to make up an army for as cheap as possible.
Well, to keep my pace up as much as possible have decided to enter this years Tale of Painters, and while I am waiting for my delivery of what minutures I am buying as well as paints to arrive I have been working on one of the few things I can do, my trebuchet. My army should in the end have two of these bad boys, the second one I think may be posed a bit more dramatically but this one is a bit more tame as more of a test case to get it right. I posted a few pictures before of this but have edited it a little to correct some bits I didn't like.
The Counterweight has been changed, and I like it a lot more now. it was all looking a little bit too much string before. Added the pouch and a hunk of stone ready to fire on the ned, as well as altering what was holding the throwing arm down so now it looks like it would actually work! also have put cardboard on the base joints to represent metal plates, on the whole it is nearly ready for painting!
Well, on the note of keeping my army as cheap as possible managed to make this bad boy for about a net cost of 75p! Will probably go in to my first months entry along with something else to bring me up closer to 200pts
Anyway, C+C welcome, after all, I have another one of these to build yet!
I absolutely love this trebuchet, it looks so realistic!
Looking forward to see it painted, and what you can do with your knights
I don't plan to do a lot more to this. there will be some green stuff rivets put onto the metal plates, some rocks and stones and uneven ground put to gether for the base, probably a small ribbonlike banner off each of the two main stands to fit in my armies colours, and having looked at the plastics that come with the men at arms kit a few extra details to try to fit in some more character and get colours in.(most notably a keg of beer resting on one of the bottom beams, and a M@A shield leaning against one of the uprights to try to get some more of the army colour into it.) Crew will be converted from men at arms, paint scheme is going to be fairly simple since they are real commoners, so no bright colours at all.
Paint scheme for the Knights is kind of thought out. I love the randomness of knights in and the variety of heraldry, but also want some consistancy between the units. So quite basically all knights will consist of one or two of the colours red blue or black, and then a 'metal' of either white or yellow. All knights in the same unit will share the same metal colour linking them together, and with the lord, since his colourscheme is going to be yellow and white. Peasants are where I can be more random with colours, lots of greens, browns, greys and Khakis in the clothing, with the unifying white and yellow for men at arms shields or peasant banners.
Should give people an idea what I am working with, so I have on order
2 bret battalions,
1 extra box of knights,
one damsel box
one extra pegasus knights box
one box of wood elf glade riders (conversion potential, will use most of whats here!)
Other conversions to come, there are sort of 4 main ones.
The lord. This should be interesting. been doing some concept sketches and trying to look through the plastics on order to figure out what I am going to do to make him lordly enough. firstly, warhorse will be rearing up, will have to take the legs off a couple of horses and do some rearranging here to get it to work with the horse kicking out at the front. The lord itself, my biggest challenge is going to be to trey to adjust the left arm, I don't like it and it looks really static. This will prob involve carving it off to the elbow completely, greenstuffing the chest smooth and aquiring another left forearm to use to put the shield on... might reconsider this before I do it! also, wither green stuff or thick metal foil will be used to give him a nice dukely cloak on his back.
Also want to do something with the base as well, so it looks like he is crossing a small stream... will see again.
The BSB. Ok, I actually dislike the existing BSB, the metal one, and at its ridiculous price I am not forking out for the model. not a lot to do here, well not as much as the lord. the glade riders have given me a lot of inspiration for this guy. the banner pole from them is quite cool with some flowing cloth on it, and I think I can work it so it sits in the standard knights left hand across his chest, so the pole rests on his shoulder. Also the swords in that kit are covered in nice squiggles and runes, looking distinctly like a magic sword, and since my fav BSB combination is sword of might and virtue of duty then a straight swap for the one in the knights kit is the plan here! oh and removing the god aweful chain off the bottom of that arm. Oh, no helmet on this guy, one of the errant heads, and then with a greenstuff beard on it for more character
One of the damsels with the kit (my only metal models I bought, by the way) comes on foot, and I am gonna do my best to make her mounted instead. not quite sure how I am gonna do this til I get the model and take a closer look, and invest in a hacksaw. One thinks this is going to be greenstuff galore!
The last one is one I have the most fun with playing around in my head, and that is converting the glade riders into mounted yeomen. a lot of chopping rearranging and posing as well as green stuff will go in here, so that 6 men at arms and 6 glade riders will make some nice dramatic looking models. Biggest problem here is going to be the postures on the men at arms are hard to change. may use some bowmen as well for interestingness.
Also, have thoughts to make up some questing knights, completely converted, but have not thought through this one properly yet as to how I would do it. also would need a cheap source of great weapons to use, though green stuffing the swords I'll have could be an option to make them longer, depends on how the other things go.
Wow, think I have been thinking about this far too much... its what happens when I order off the internet and get really impatient waiting for my models to arrive!
Hey Bretlord didnt want to be negative about what is a great modeling job you've done.... but is there a reason you havent put the stone underneath the swinging arm and extended the base out? what you have at the minute is more catapault than trebuchet
that said i do really like what you have done
Di think about putting the stone under, but when I posed it there it both
1. didn't look very good and looked really crowded, and
2. made me think I shouldn't have put the wooden bar across the bottom as it would tear itself apart then!
The way it is I plan to have a couple of crew tinkering aorund the stone, one by the handle on the side, and one sort of commander pointing where to shoot. gives some more space around the model.
I do agree though, a traditional treb should fire from underneath... could change it again.
end of the day, its your model, design it as you see fit, if it looked better outside put it outside.
Its awsome realy awsome well done!
cant wait for more good luck
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Thanks for the comments about the treb.
Well, busyish day, Still no models or paints, so cant get properly started yet, so instead can just tease you by saying work has begun on trebuchet 2! No pictures yet as its still very much in assembly phase, but the plan for this one is for it to be in mid firing, with the stone just starting to leave the pouch. A little more difficult but I think it should work. Ends up looking ridiculously tall tho, nearly a foot high!
i look forward to it seeing as the first one looks so realistic