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I have a sickness. I canít put the Warhammer down. Every time I step away, they drag me hack with shiny new trinket Ölike a new addition.
Then inspiration struck me like a great big striking thingÖ Picture if you will, Malekith's Nagarythe army, just before the Sundering. Rampaging across Ulthuan tearing up cultists and what not. Or, perhaps the army he had with him durring the time of the Sundering itself. There are plenty of Pre-Heresy armies in 40K, why not a Time of Legends Army? I already started some threads in the (Time of Legends Army)High Elf and Dark Elf (Time of Legends Army) forums to gather thoughts and information.
Naturally, I canít find my Malekith book right now, and Iím about half way through Shadow King. But who am I to let unpreparedness slow me down?
The book describes Malekith's army as being made up of:
Super Sneaky Ninja Scouts (Raven Heralds.)
Iíve decided to actually write this army list two ways. The first uses the High Elf rules and represents Malekithís army as he Marches on Anlec. As I get to used to 8th Ed rules, equipment and options, this list will change. Iíll just try to stay flexible. Right now this list consists ofÖ
Malekith (portrayed by using the rules for Eltharion)
Prince Yeasir (Noble BSB)
Elthyrior the Raven Herald (Noble w/ shadow armor)
Seaguard x40 w/ banner of Not in the Face! (arcane protection)
Silver Helms x12
Lion Charriots x2
Ellyrian Reavers x5
House Anar (Shadow Warriors) x8
Reaper Bolt Thrower x2
Now, by the end of both books, things go rather sour for our hero. Using the Dark Elf book, here is the list for Malekith's army once he starts going for the throat (list subject to change ...a lot.)
Malekith as played by Malekith
Prince Yeasir (Master BSB)
X-bow Warriors x20
Dark Riders x5
Crazy Cultists (Witch Elves) x21
Reaper Bolt Thrower x2
With the exception of a few units and a slight shift in attitude, this is pretty much the same army. Both lists are 2500 pts. The idea is that the units look like warriors from Nagarythe. Black armor, but still high elfy. Black armor and high elf weapons. (The Tweakers Black Arc WIP)Long, long ago in a thread far, far away, I played around with this color scheme for my normal Dark Elf army.
Several units are not yet available like Sword Masters or Cold Ones. There are no repeating crossbows yet, so those units will have to be converted to have bows. Here are a couple of test conversions so far using all three elf ranges.
What do you think? What works and what doesn't? Iím of the thought that The forearm spike should be trimmed off and the helmets smoother and more high elf like. I think I need to take off the pointy shoulder pauldrons on all the models as well. The shields (and BSB) will either have the heraldry of Nagarythe or Malekith himself. Problem is, I cant find any descriptions of either of these symbols beyond 'silver and black.' Any help would be most appreciated.
I wish I was still single so I had time to dream up things like this
What kind of conversion do you plan to do for the Dark Elf Chariots? As Cold Ones were not yet discovered. Not sure about Witch Elves either, had they turned to Khaine yet?
I was thinking you might be screwed with Malekith at 2.5k with the new % rules, but he sneaks in at 24.something% - joy!
Anyway I like your ideas and it's looking good so far. Good luck with it
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The conversions look very good. The archers have great poses! I agree that toning down some of the spikier Dark Elf bits would be a good idea. They may not have to go altogether, but they should definitely be blended in a bit. A nice start!
Great idea. It's always fun to be able to use multiple codexes/armybooks with one army as SM players can attest to. Also an excellent point in warhammer history. Dwarfs blowing up elf stuff is always a good time.
Agreed on the spikes. Get rid of 'em. Seems like you could do without the pauldrons too. They have the pointy DE chest plates which is probably enough.
Giving them tunic sleeves like HE shadow warriors might give them a cool look.
looking great there tweaker.
I do like the colour scheme and the conversions so far look good. I do have to agree with the others and say you need to reduce the spikes.
How where you planning to base them, to suit Ulthuan or Nagaroth?
Will be keeping an eye on this one
Here they are sans spikes. I like it much better. I also scraped the helmets a bit more to make them more clean and High Elfy.
Just finished Shadow King. Such a great book. I ALMOST makes me feel dirty playing the DE. But I'll get over it. It did point out one mistake I made. Malekith's army was silver and black. I painted all of my trim in gold. I'll paint up these test models in silver and black and we'll go from there but I may need to re-paint some stuff.
As for the bases, I was going to go with a winter/rocky theme but the elves never marched in the winter snows so now I'm not sure.
As for chariots and knights, I was just going to use the silver helms horses with Cold One Knights to represent the knights of both lists (this is actually kind of a shame as I LOVE the new cold one models.) The army chariots will use the Tiranoc Chariots for the 'nice' list and Lion Chariots to represent the cold one chariots in the 'naughty' list.
Right now I'll focus on foot troops because I know things will change when Island of Blood and the other new High Elf stuff comes out in September/October.
They look great dude. I really like the combination of the two race's kits. They do look much better with the spikes all trimmed off, more smoother and High Elfy. My only concern was that the bow arms (Glade Guard pieces?) might look a little too thin and under armoured when you consider them next to the armour legs and torsos. It's not really much, just something I sort of noticed.
I look forward to seeing the army painted up and stuff.
Gah! I was hoping no one would notice the Wood Elf arms. Glad you said something, as I'm sure that means several others have noticed them as well. The question now is, do I green stuff up 20 some odd archer arms, or do I just hope its less noticeable once it's all painted up? My inner stickler is wrestling my inner slacker. I'll let you know who wins.
With this in mind, and to answer Manu, I still have to greenstuff up a slew of Witch Elves. You are correct Manu, the Witch Elves had not been established during the early stages of the Sundering, but the cult of Khaine was a very big part of Morathi's armies. I'll be converting 'em all up to look more like crazy cultists as opposed to the Witch Elf cults we all currently know and love. This means I'll need to convert up some male elves to put in there as well. Not sure how I'll do this, but I'm open to any suggestions.
Still no insight to Malekith's personal heraldry. In Shadow King it describes a coiling dragon and his breastplate, but thats not very definitive. Did I mention how awesome that book is?
For the male cultist you could possible use the male whichs or mandrakes from the dark elder range, some of the armour might need to be modified and obviously the futuristic weapons will need to come off but they could be a good starting point.
Then again it depends if you want to work with metal or not. Also if all the rumours about dark elder prove to be true, with all the new models you might be able to pick up the old ones cheap...
Ok, here are a couple of test figures. Trying to figure out the silver and black imagery of the army. What are your thoughts?
Here is one of my previously painted x-bowmen with the gold trim.
Shield and banner design ideas will come later. I'll try to get better pix later when I have better light to work with. Aside from the fact that these are really crappy pix, what are your thoughts?
PS- Yup, those old male cultists are the way to go. Anyone know where I can beg, borrow or steal some?