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This is based off of Sabbat Matyr book when Saint Sabbat convinced the pilgrim mobs to fight for the emperor. This can easily be used to represent any saint's pilgrims but as I am a Gaunts Ghosts fan I'm going to use Sabbat as the example.
Formation: 100 pts + Models
St. Sabbat (counts as St. Celestine from page 47 of the Witch Hunters Codex)
2+ units of conscripts (from page 45 of the Imperial Guard Codex)
0+ Priests attached to a conscript platoon (from page 41 of the Imperial Guard Codex)
Emerge from Hiding: The conscripts and priests of the formation may deploy with either the flank march or tunnels asset. The saint must be on the board when the formation arrives.
For the saint! As long as the Saint is alive all conscript and Priest units count as fearless and must always charge if able to do so. If the saint dies all conscripts must take an immediate morale check using their own (or the priests accompanying them) leadership (i.e. they may not use an officers or anybody else's leadership). This happens each time the saint dies. If the saint returns then all conscript units immediately rally as per normal rules and become fearless once again.
Note for the saint to return she must be on board. So even if the saint passed her leadership test the conscripts do not rally until the saint is actually placed on the board.
Frenzied Mob: These are mere pilgrims and civilians. While some may have been guardsmen in their earlier life the majority have not. Any conscript unit can never capture any objective (even though they are originally troop choices) but may contest an objective. No independent character other than the saint may join any conscript unit from this formation. They are also subject to the rage USR.
Mob Weapons: No special weapons or heavy weapon upgrades may be taken. All models in a conscript unit may exchange their lasguns for a laspistol and close combat weapon for free.
Last edited by MadLarkin; February 2nd, 2009 at 06:21.
I like it. Reminds me of similar Chaos and Genestealer cultist formations. Just to clarify a few things, you should point out to WH players that the Conscripts do come from the IG dex. You may also want to point out if your using WH or IG priests. And last but not least, I believe you met St. Celestine, not St. Catherine.
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I really like those rules, you haven't succumbed to the overpowering bug. The hordes really are "hordlike".
I'd say these are the best homemade rules i've seen in a while.
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A nice set of balanced rules that also carry a lot of falvour for that army, as a little add-on perhaps give them also a rule that they must charge if possible.
In all a very nice well though out battleformation.
thanks for all the support and advice! I've made a couple changes to the formation and clarified where everything comes from.
I picked the imperial guard priest because i think the witch hunters priests has too much wargear to choose from. I don't want any priests in power armor with braziers or anything, these should be civies priests. I was tempted to restrict the wargear the priest can take but i felt that would make it too complicated and restrict conversions (I imagined a priest in an ancient suit of platemail with an equally ancient and extremely ornate pistol, e.g. carapace armor and a plasma pistol) what do yall think?
I do like the idea of the conscripts having to charge when able to. Should I just give them the rage rule from the BGB? I don't want to give them holy rage as I think that will be a little too powerful.
Also I made it clear (at least i hope so) what would happen if the saint were to die and return with the miraculous intervention rule.
Uhm.. I like this list, except for the part about always having to charge. This is a Conscript unit for crying out loud! I doubt they could kill an angry dog. I think they should atleast be able to do a Leadership test to hold back.
I like this list. May ty it out myself at some point. Personally I would make it compulsary to have a priest in each squad, but that is just me.
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I love the idea! I agree with Zemaphore, it is refreshing to see a homebrew unit that isn't designed to be ripped! I'd say they're prefectly balanced..
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Thanks for all the support though! this is from my favorite 40k book, sabbat matyr and I'm glad that everyone thinks these rules are balanced
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Looks really good, i have to agree. I dont see many good balances when it comes to home brewed rules.. I loved the book as well and this seems to make for a good adaptation. I'm going to have to go bitz buying now.. (conversions galore) and test this beasty out.. Figure i'd take 4-5 conscripted units.. priest in each.. Hmm.. crunchy..
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