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most races 40k have some form of tank buster weapon be it multi melta, fusion blaster etc,
seeing as they fire steady streams of energy not unsimilair to a flamer shouldnt they have a template instead of a to hit roll.
its just a thought
WELL SAID, NO MORE SQUATS THEY ARE DEAD GET OVER ITOriginally Posted by artificer
Fluffwise, meltas are a very highly concentrated beam of heat. sort of what a laser dose for light, a melta dose for microwaves. It wouldn't work as well if it were dispersed in that fashion.
besides that, having a tank buster strength weapon that hits as a template would be way overpowered. bye bye termies in droves.
Originally Posted by Andusciassus
Other than the Vindicator, you mean?Originally Posted by XenomarinesKiller
I think Daedelus nailed it. Chaos has a couple equivalents to your idea--Wind of Chaos and the Ether Lance--but meltas and flamers are like sniper rifles and Uzis. Two very different approaches to a problem but with similar technology.
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Originally Posted by Daedelus
yes, they use MICROWAVE radiation against METAL vehicles...
am i the only one who sees something wrong here?
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I might be wrong on how tecnology in the 40,000 milenium works, for that I appologise. I'm not exactly sure what the 2nd milieium equlivant to a melta is.
besides what happens when you put a fork in the microwave? that effect, highly concentrated might do some damage.
Last edited by Daedelus; March 22nd, 2006 at 20:06.
Originally Posted by Andusciassus
A Plasma-type flamer would probably be more appropriate, and as plasma weapons are inherenty projectile weapons. The idea with a meltagun, though, is that it is very concentrated, so if you wanted a flamer you would have to reduce it to, say, S5 AP3, and without AP1 it is not a special anti-tank weapon.
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Just as a point of reference, when you use a melta, you engage a process that projects from the barrel a super high pressure jet of ultra reactive gas. This reacts instantly with anything it comes into contact with, which, addition to corroding through at an impressive rate, produces phenominal amoutns of heat, creating the 'Melta' effect. This part of the reason meltas are short ranged, in that you can only project high pressure gas so far. Its also what the big cannistor on the side of the gun is for. Microwaves etc. are too dependant on the target material. Unlike the plamsa gun, the melta is highly reliable, and reletivly easy to maintain as huge amounts of power are not needed to fire it. Also, to prevent the melta going off like a bomb when hit, the melta mixes two differnet chemicals internally when fired to create the said gas. This creates a delay of a few seconds between when you pull the trigger and it firing. (though this delay is also for the pressure to build up). Due to its relialbity and minimal training, in addition to highly efficient destruction, it is popular amongst imperial guard sqauds. Variations in heat are also possible in advanced models, probably acheived through some form of altering the ratio of chemcials mixed or diluting the gas. And as anyone whos played Fire Warrior knows, it makes a noise like a jet engine (pressure build up and chemical mixture) followed by a loud hiss (gas projection) and a burning sound (target being melted, hehe).
Similarly to the plasma gun, we have no real world equivalent. This is mainly due to
a) We have not developed infantry armour sufficient for there to be any super heavy infantry troops (such as Termies) in the world, and so high penetrating power assault weapons are not needed
b) Due to the fact that none of our tanks have been designed by the almight STC, and a lack of sophisticated materials, even the most advanced tanks in the world are only going to be armour 12, with some maybe just about armour 13. As a result, considering we have the equivalent of Krak missiles in the form of the Stinger missile, we have no need for super high power armour penetration
c) It just hasnt been designed yet. Cultures seem to progress at random rates to each other when in isolation. In the 1600s, Native Americans hadnt even developed basic ore refining to produce metals, while europeans had built galleons with cannons and sailed round the world. Ancient India had cities and univeristies when Europeans were a bunch of hut dwelling barbarians. Just think, if it hadnt been for Newton, how long would we have had to wait for someone else to work out what he did? 50 years? 100 years? Sometimes all it takes is a moment of genius to throw civilisation forwards.
And by the way, we're in the third millenium, not the second
Last edited by Baron Von Rimmo; March 22nd, 2006 at 20:44.
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