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This was posted by Donga666 on Warseer. He has been the Lenton and seen some of the new Vampire Counts models due to come out soon.
(PS. He won the Diorama Catagory at GDUK.) :party2:
i know there is a GD VC thread but this is a bit 'post-GD'.
@Mods, please delete this thread if you see fit.
@everyone else, i'm sorry there are no pictures just descriptions
@GW, I'm sorry if I have overstepped the mark!
I have recently been to GW lenton to get my GD entry photographed (Diorama, it was too big for the photo rig at the NEC). So I spent a very pleasant afternoon in the photo-suit at Lenton. In the photosuit is a big set of figure cabinets full of stuff to be photographed for WD and Codex/Army books. There were all the Orks and some LoTR stuff, none of it made much impression as I had either seen it or I don't like the game (LoTR).
BUT, there was the whole VC army set out ready to photograph for the book etc etc.......BY GOD IT'S PRETTY!!!!! (in a sort of rotten way)
I will run down the list item by item:
Skellies, they are in scale to humans and they look realy nice although smaller than the current models, excellent sculpt! Nothing that you wouldn't expect in them.
Gouls, Yep Plastic! they are very hunched and spikey looking, (they were ranked as well!). Strangley they reminded me of Yoda for some reason, all hunched and very degenerate (I'm not saying Yoda is degenerate).
Direwolves, these are a VAST improvement on the current plastic metal hybrid. Not realy a great deal differant but they do look undead and very manky. More dynamic poses too.
All three of the special characters, vlad, conrad and Manfred von....I know manfred was at the GD but he looks very pretty painted up. Conrad looks quite mad but by far my favourite is Vlad, a proper pose and nice armour in the current 'no-bloodline' theme. Gone is the silly 'hamour horror' look!
Two unamed vampires, one female sculpted by Seb Perbet which is nice but didn't blow me away. Improvement on the current lamians though! And a very very beautiful one with one bat wing in place of his arm and in a great pose, i will be buying this one even though I don't play VC (yet).
The best models by far in the range are the Blood Knights, they are SO GOOD LOOKING!!!!!! The knights and the horses are fully armoured & barded they are armed with lances. the horses are in such dynamic poses leaping and just looking great. The knights faces are visable too and they are full of character!
All the other stuff is the same, just repainted to fit in. I was a little disapointed to see the Black Knights the same models, I didn't find out if they were due a redo, sorry.
I have a winners day to come up but I think we are sworn to secrecy for that I didn't get into the design studio or casting hall, this time
BTW: I got Gold
Ghouls are ranked? I hope that doesnt meant they lose their skimisher rule or I will be very sad.... They are one of the best deals in VC afterall.
What about the plastic GraveGuard I heard so much?
i can allready feel undeath calling, exelent.
PROUD TO BE IN THE BRITISH ARMY.
~~ Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death~~
Plastic Grave Guard are there too, mentioned in the thread further down and we have already seen pictures from GD UK.
VC are looking very interesting.. With GW doing horses well (Blood Knights), I really really wish they had redone silver helms and/or reavers. They would have been great.
As a VC and HE player, and trying to focus on HE at the moment, I really hope the new VC don't distract me from my Asur army until it is finished.
Is that any word for Plastic/New Wight Knight model?
Unfortunately no there is as yet no plans for plastic Wight cavalry. However with the new plastic Grave Guard you could possibly convert some new models by combining it with the Empire Knights sprue. 8Y
Oh and this was posted on Warseer by MasterVampire. All I can say is that Blood Knights are going to be absolutely horrific. (Imagine chosen Chaos Knights of Khorne WITH LANCES and that is what you have. )
Great stuff, this is.;oAll of this is by EvC (the quote button made some parts of text go with a line through the text :
I've got a load of rumours courtsey of the UKGT... and here they are for you all. Please note that any stuff in [square brackets] is my own thoughts or speculation- do not repeat it as fact or rumour to anyone anywhere unless you are an idiot! Now if you thought that the new High Elves sound powerful, wait till you see the new Vampire Counts... among the less scatalogical terms used to describe them were "sick", "disgusting" and "filthy". You have been warned
So, to begin with, not much info on characters other than Wight Lords are now "Wight Kings". Guess GW realised how silly a hero-level character with "Lord" in the name was...
As is well known, bloodlines have been removed (in terms of rules). There is now a -massive- list of bloodline powers to choose from, encompassing most of the powers we currently have and more. Here's a really interesting one: for 25 points, any Skeleton or Zombie within 12" can use the WS of the Vampire, as long as the Vampire isn't in combat. WS7 Skeletons? Nice! Another new magic item lets one wizard take spells from any of the basic lores from the main rulebook, except Life [presumably Light won't be available either or my source mis-spoke/ mis-heard himself].
Speaking of the magic, the Necromantic Lore is undergoing a massive revamp. Curse of Years will be the 4th spell on the list and even drops a couple of points for casting value, don't know if it's been weakened at all. The spell replacing it is called something like "Winds of Death", and makes EVERY enemy unit on the table take one hit, and any wounds go towards making a new Spirit Host near the caster! Incredible stuff... I heard two separate, very differing rumours about the invocation, one that it can only be used to make Zombies, and the other that it can be used to raise anything, "skeletons, wights, wolves, ghouls etc." [although since Ghouls aren't undead I'm not sure if I believe that. It could mean that Necromancers can raise anything but Vampires only Zombies]
Moving onto units, Zombies are cheaper some, and are now even more rubbish. S2 these days, and always strike last. Always. [Don't think Hellish Vigour will exist any more.] You know the Zombie bunker tactic? Gone! Characters can no longer join Zombies. Also, Zombies cannot pursue any more- when a unit breaks, for every rank of Zombies, the flee-ers take a bunch of extra hits/ wounds. Doesn't seem that nasty really.
Ghouls will be ranked-up infantry again. Not sure how that'll turn out.
Grave Guard can take great weapons
The Knights of Blood Keep are going to be horrific. Unit size 4-20, frenzied, 3 attacks each at S5 with lances (So S7!), the less said about them the better...
Wraiths return as ranked up units, as has been speculated for a while. The Banshee now fights with them as a unit champion, making them very expensive. To be honest I can't imagine this looking any good on the table top, although if they skirmish that might make more sense.
The Black Coach is going to make a lot of people happy (or scared). For a start, 4+ ward save- no word on immunity to S7 attacks though. However, it can go a little bit mental in the magic phase! Any wizard within 6" can donate a power dice, which you roll and for every 6 you get, it permanently gains a new ability, including...
3) ? [My money's on immunity to S7 destruction]
Yes, that's right, an invisible [Edit: meant ethereal!], flying, terror causing large target. You'll need to donate 30 power dice on average to get that far, but if you do... wow. And still 200 points.
Special characters are five von Carsteins as has been said, Vlad and old Mannfred are the Lords, with Isabella, young Mannfred and a third as heroes. I can't imagine Konrad being a lowly hero, he's a lord and a half, but we'll see...
That should keep us going for a bit. Out in about six months remember
This looks good. 8Y
From what I here from GW staff that are mates.
Skeletons - Are now a special choice. Cannot be raised. There replacing grave guard to. Skeletons are now going to be S4 T4 like grave guard and I4. Big improvement. Can be armed similar to grave guard.
Zombies - Only thing that can be raised. No longer brain dead. And well, thats really about it. i still think they'll be low I, like I2. and probably have the same stats as current skeles. S3 T3.
Grave Guard - Like i said, there going. Skeletons are replacing them.
Black Knights - Gone. Instead there going to be vampire thralls on horses, each with 3 attacks at S5. With a lance on the charge thats 15 (16 inc champ) S7 attacks there goes a few ranks. GW staff are saying these are going to be better than chaos knights and are going to cost around the 50 point mark... each. But sadly they say there only going to have 1W still.
As for the rest of undead units, I haven't heard anything. Going to keep bugging my mates to tell me more info as I collect VC but some of the new models look very cool. New manfred certainly looks around 300 times better.
My guess is magic items are going to change dramatically to. And I think there bringing out a few more special characters. However don't hold me on that. I'll find out more info and post as I know
So wait, that awsome new armoured skelly model isn't a grave guard?? Its a normal skelly?!?!? That completely took me by suprise, if anything I would have expected skellies gone and instead only grave guard. Whatever................. The cool part is if the come out in May, I get all my awsome B-Day cash (along with my saved up Christmas money) to spend on an awsome new VC army. Those Knights of the Blood Keep are going to be god-like.........