Daemon Army Book rumour summary

[Jared van Kell]

LokiGod posted the following on Warseer. Some of you are going to really like this stuff, the Balesword is sick. I have removed the points costs so that it does not break forum rules. 8Y

Condensed from my previous posts at daemonic legion web site, and what I gleaned from 20 mins with the new book.

Army rules

+5 True ward no requirements that I saw
Daemons no longer poof they crumble

Lords

(get 75 to 100 points of gifts if I remember right)
All greater daemons range between 400 and 450 points
Thirster - 7 at and nice ws and str
LOC - didn’t look
GUO- w 10, str 6, t6, at 4, mv 6 you can make him lvl 4 wizard for xxx more points starts as lvl 1
KOS mv 10 nice stats
Daemon prince- xxx points and can be marked for xx points, same stats almost as hoc version
Named greater daemons(the ones I can remember)
Named guo- ability is to throw nurglings like stone thrower always wounds on +2 and allows no armour saves, only 1 wound per target under template
Named blood thirster type hero (has frenzy and this is only frenzy I saw in the book)
Named lord of change (has access to 8 spells but is only lvl 4 in dice generation)

Heros

(50 points of gifts)(can have banners for +25 points)
Heralds give special effects to units, around 100 to 115 points , stats varied depending on god
Locus of khorne = hatred
Locus of tzeentch = +4 ward save/ herald of tzeentch is also lvl 2 mage, disc is +xx points, stats for combat are ws 3 str 3
Locus of slaanesh = ASF/ can be upgraded as wizard
Locus of nurgle regeneration/ can be upgraded as wizard,
Named heralds(the ones I can remember)
Epidimus nurgle - he gives you special abilities army wide for kills made by poison
Skull taker khorne- killing blow on +5 anything
Tzeentch herald - cool effect - get one power dice for every spell your enemy casts in his magic phase
All I remember sorry

Core

(all core is xx points)
Blood letters- mv 5,ws 5, str 6, at 1, t3, killing blow
Plague bearers - no longer have cloud of flies, but are t4 and poison attacks
Horrors-as previous stated get better spells with unit size) stats like a human
Daemonettes - mv 6, ws 5, str 3, t3, at 2, armour piercing
Furries- cant remember if there special or core, str 4, at 1, ld 2

Special

All specials are +xx points apiece
Nurglings - ws 3,str3,at 3, w 3 scout and skirmish poison attacks
Screamers
Flesh hounds ws5,str5,w2,mv 8 magic resistance 1
Cant remember slaanesh one

Rare

Crushers- rider gets ws 5 str 6 at 2/ mount gets ws 5 str 5 at2, +3 to riders save from mount, mv 7 I think! Can have command
Beasts- d6+1 at, ws4, t4(I think), poisoned
Flamers- ws 2, bs above 3, str 5, w 2, at 2, d6 str 4 shoots at 18 inch range mv 6
Fiends - str 4 at 4 mv 10 aura of slaanesh- enemy makes break test on 3 dice and discards lowest

Chariots are for heralds only if I remember right
Chariot of khorne - str 5 impact hits juger has ws 5 str 5 2 a
Chariot of tzeentch - fly str 4 imapct hits
Chariot of slaanesh- mv 10 str 5 impact hits

Magic
we have accesses to lore of metal now

Nurgle lore -
Spell 1(cast on +3) - unit in baes to base with char red it str, ws, and like 3 other things to 1.…. Not reduced by one I mean all the way to 1
Spell 2 - flame template everything under it take toughness test or dies

Tzeentch lore
Gleen magic is true
Spell gives d3 dice to caster only to him though
Last spell is +13 and does 2dr str 5 attacks and turn them to horrors forgot rest

Daemonic gifts and banners (there are 8+ banners now and lot are god specific)

Banners
3d6 str 3 magic missile xx points
All wounds from poison attacks from unit count double for combat res xx points
+d6 movement first charge
+d3 to combat res I think its xx points
Power lvl 5 all things in 12 inches take d6 str 6 hits xx points
3 dice on break test remove lowest
Stubborn on first break test 25 points
Banner of the Gods- All daemons within 12 inches are stubborn xxx points

Daemonic gifts(gifts range from 75 to 15 points)
2 full pages of gifts and banners… also the lords and heros profiles tell what gifts they can have to reduce confusion. They seem priced just right for there effects!
2D6+2 attacks for xx points/ note this replaces normal attacks
Many Arms- +2 attacks-
Balesword- Does D6 wounds for every wound no armour saves xx points
Obsidian Armour +3 save and makes all magic weapons in base non magical xx points
Gift that gives you char str 10
Spell breaker same cost and effect
Tzeentch Will same effect
A gift that gives access to any lore in brb and you know all spells from lore xx points

JvK :happy:

[Inquisitor Blackadder]

Oh my, god, this sounds like an interesting army...;o;o
By the way, there seems to be some points values dotted around and especially in the last to sections. I'm not sure if they're intentional or you just missed them

Thanks for the info JvK! 8Y

:happy:

[Nunizillion]

Daemon Prince??? (box of 1 plastic model?)





Daemon Prince

- Possible new plastic set


JVK

o.O I... If this turns out to be true... I would be sooo happy

[Lil Tweaker]

So, how does the deamon list work in with the mortals and beast lists? Can they still be shuffeled in under special, or did I miss something?
This just might re-vitalize my beasts army.
-J

[Atma]

Lil Tweaker: According to rumor, Daemon Army will be stand alone, much like Codex Daemons in 40k. Wanting to combine Beasts/Hordes with this Army would be the equivalent of a High Elf player wanting to use Dark Elf and Wood Elf rules, characters, and/or abilities.

But yes, this army is looking very, very nice. And yes, the Balesword is sick. Oh, if the Bloodthirster can get that sword...*shudders* a possible 42 wounds...

Also, I thought Bloodletters were getting a toughness boost? Though I can understand why they wouldn't.

Looks like I'll be dusting off the rest of my Chaos army.

[Undead Bonzi]

Jared van Kell I just want you to know that your my hero. 8Y

As my own personal hero I demand that you find and share more juicy rumors about this new Daemons army book, especially Slannesh. If even half of what has been said about this new book is accurate then it seems GW has gotten the formula right for a very unique and competitive army that will be a blast to play. I think my search for a new army to play is over, I was considering waiting for the Dark E's but why play an army that acts evil when you can play an army that is evil incarnate.

[Jared van Kell]

More rumours. Again I have removed the points costs so I don't break forum rules. 8Y

Looked at the book again today you guys are going to love me


GUO - XXX points
Lvl 1 wizard base
Lvl 2 35,lvl 3 85,lvl 4 XXX
Terror
Poisoned
Etc
Stats
m6,ws4,bs0,s6,t6,w10,i4,a4,ld9
Gifts
Bale sword- XX auto wounds d6 wounds
Nurgling infestation - XX at start both magic phases on 2 to 6 get another nurgle base on existing base within 6in 1 fails
Staff of nurgle-XX casts rancid visitation on power lvl 3
Trappings XX +4 armour regen
Noxious vapors XX always strike last even for high elves
Pestilent mucus XX if you wound they have pass toughness test or it another wound no armour saves
Bile - XX str 4 breath weapon
Hunger - XX reroll fail to wounds
Trail- XX no flanks or rear

LOC - XXX points
Lvl 2 wizard base
lvl 3 XX,lvl 4 XX
Terror
Fly
Knows all spells from lore of tzeentch
Etc
Stats
m8,ws6,bs4,s6,t6,w5,i6,a5,ld9
Gifts
Twin heads XX- +2 to cast
Tzeentch will XX same effect as before
Staff of change XX if target wounded take toughness test or dies
Spell destroyer XX same effect
Power vortex XX + 1 dice to pool
Dark magister XX ignore 1st miscast
Daemonic robes XX 3+ or better to wound
Flames XX- shooting attack d6 str 4 18 in range
Corona - XX every thing in base takes str 3 hit every magic phase both players
Sorcery - pick any lore from basic rule book knows all spells

Various stats from unit choices these are correct straight from book

blood letters- XX points
m5,ws5,bs0,s5,t3,w1,i4,a1,ld7
Killing blow
Think there mr 1
Banners for unit
Skull totem XX cant be marched blocked
Icon endless despair XX +d6 to first charge

Plauge bearers- XX points
m4,ws3,bs0,s4,t4,w1,i1,a1,ld7
poisoned
Banners for unit
Seeping decay XX reroll wounds
Eternal virulence XX for every wound by poison it counts as 2 combat res

horrors- XX points
m4,ws3,bs0,s3,t3,w1,i3,a1,ld7
Banners for unit
change XX base contact 3d6 str3 hits
Sorcery XX +1 to casting
bound spells a few of them
0-5 none
6-15 lvl 1 wizard flickering fire d6+1 missles at d6+1 str range 18 in
16-25 lvl 2 wizard gift of chaos 12in anywhere around caster d6 str 6 hit all enemy units even if there in comat
horros generate dice just like wizards and can miscast know all spells from there lvl below

fleshhounds- XX points min unit size 5
m8,ws5,bs0,s5,t4,w2,i4,a2,ld7
Mr 3

nurglings- XX points
m4,ws3,bs0,s3,t3,w3,i3,a3,ld7
Skirmish scout poison

Blood crushers - XX standard is 20
Mr1
+3 riders as
killing
Rider -m5,ws5,bs0,s6,t4,w2,i4,a3,ld7
Crusher -m7,ws5,bs0,str5,t4,w1,i2,a2,ld7
Magic banners
Skull totem XX cant be marched blocked
Icon endless despair XX +d6 to first charge

Flamers- XX points unit size 3to 6
m6,ws2,bs4,s5,t4,w2,i4,a2,ld7
Skirmish
Flaming attacks
Flames of tzeentch - d6 str 4 shots 18in

Fiends- XX I think
m10,ws4,bs0,s4,t4,w3,i6,a4,ld7
Sporforic musk - enemy uses 3 dice for break test discard lowest
Armour piercing

beast of nurgle - XXX points each
m6,ws3,bs0,s4,t5,w4,i1,ad6+1,ld7
regen
slime trail- no flanks or rear bonus
poisoned

Got some info more I will post later on tzeentch herald and nurgle herald and khorne herald….. If this is too much on points and stuff feel free to edit post mods! I will post rest later tonight!

condensed from later post!
herald of khorne - XXX points/jugger +XX/ chariot XX
magic res 1
hatred
kb
Stats
m5,ws7,bs0,s5,t4,w2,i6,a3,ld8
gifts
for some reason i forgot to write these down although he has a total of 6 possible gifts

herald of tzeentch - XXX points/disc XX/ chariot didnt look
lvl 2 wizard base
flaming attacks
+4 ward
Stats
m4,ws3,bs4,s3,t3,w2,i3,a2,ld8
gifts
staff - XX when you wound they have to pass test or imediatley slain
power vortex - XX extra power dice to pool
flames of tzeentch- XX d6 rng 18 str 4 shooting evil.gif
daemonic robes - XX cant be wounded on anything better than 3+
corona- XX see loc post
sorcery- XX see loc post
spell breaker- XX dispel scroll/ only person i saw that could take regular scroll blink.gif
winged horror - XX fly
disc stats
m1,ws3,bs0,s3,t3,w1,i4,a1,ld7 big nerf dry.gif

herald of nurgle - XXX points can have plaquin of nurgle for XX points.
lvl 1 wizard upgrade for XX points
regeneration
poison attacks
Stats
m4,ws5,bs0,s5,t5,w2,i2,a3,ld8
gifts
staff of nurgle- XX rancid visitation power lvl 3
noxious vapors- enemy always srikes last even if they have the always strike first special rule
nurgles rot - XX all models in base to base in every magic phase roll a dice on a 6 they die
mucus- XX if you wound model takes toughness test if they fail one more wound no armour saves
bile- XX strength 4 breath weapon
soul hunger- XX same effect as soc
trail- XX herald or unit he is with denies any bonus like +1 or +2 in the rear or flank. they can still break your ranks though.

Slannesh Herald:

Herald of Slaanesh- XXX points can have steed of slaanesh for XX points or chariot of slaanesh for XX points
lvl 1 wizard upgrade for XX points
ASF
armour piercing
cheapest of all heralds: armor piercing, ASF
m6,ws7,bs0,s4,t3,w2,i7,a4,ld8
gifts
etherblade
many armed monstrosity- xx +2 attacks
allure of slaanesh
daemonic robes- XX cant be wounded on anything better than 3+
enrapturing gaze
siren song
soporific musk- XX enemy suffers -3 ld to break tests
torment blade- XX if wounds are caused enemy may not strike back.

kos is mv10 with 6 attacks if i remember right with almost same stats as before
seekers are in the book regular daemoneete stats on top and the steed is like ws3st3 strike first cant remember anything else dont play them smile.gif mv 10 though

Daemonette stats are like i posted before mv6,ws 4,str 3,in is high, armour peircing 2 attacks....

JvK :happy:

[forumjayz]

hey JvK jsut wondering if there is any info on the screamers. Wondering if they keep there slashing attacks. and I've heard they where weakend even more so any information on these would be really apriciated

[Phalanx]

Here's something some people may be wondering about: Prices.

Daemonettes and bloodletters are $25 CDN and Flesh Hounds are $30 CDN according to the newest WD. That puts daemonettes and bloodletters at $30 cheaper than their metal predecessors, and Flesh Hounds are probably 35 or so cheaper (I never got any of the old ones, but I'm guessing they were probably one price segment higher than the standard daemons, so $65). Bloodcrushers are $35 (a bit expensive IMHO, though it makes sense), Epidemius is $50, and the Soul Grinder is $70 (IIRC thats the same as a Defiler or a Land Raider).

[Jared van Kell]

The magic lores. These are bloody nasty.

Tzeench

Flicker of Fire: Magic missile range 18" . Unit suffers D6+1 Hits, D6+1 Strength,
Boon of Tzeentch: Adds D3+1 power dice to casters own dice pool.
Gleam Magic: One enemy spell may be cast as a Bound spell, with a power level equal to its basic casting level, summon spells may not be used.
Gift of Chaos: Magic missile range 30". Enemy unit suffers 2D6 hits at D6+1 Strength,
Bolt of Change: All enemy units within 12" take d6 str d6 hits.
Tzeench's Firestorm: Target enemy units takes 2d6 str 5 hits. Casualties become horrors. Horrors do NOT start in combat, they can be placed anywhere within 3" inches of that unit. Worth 50vp

Slaanesh

Acquiesience: Cast on enemy unit within 18". Unit is stupid for the rest of the game. Not a remains in play.
Succor of Chaos: Cast on any friendly unit engaged in combat within 18 inches. Gives them ASF and rerolls missed to hit rolls in subsequent round of combat.
Caphonic Caress: All enemy units within 2d6 including those in comabt take d6 str3 with no saves.
Slicing Shards of Slaanesh: Magic missile range 24". Enemy unit suffers d6, Str 5 hits. Target must then take LD test. if they pass spells ends. If failed repeat process. Only ends when they pass a LD test.
Pavane of Slaanesh: Target single enemy model within 24" LOS needed. Enemy model must pass an LD test or suffer D6 wounds. No armor saves.
Phantasmagoria: All enemy units on the battlefield must roll an extra d6 when taking leadership tests of any kind and discarding the lowest result rolled. Phantasmagoria lasts until the start of the casters next phase.

Nurgle

Miasma of Pesticlence: All units in base contact with caster reduce WS, S, T, I, A to 1
Stream of Corruption: Breath weapon, may not be used in combat. All models hit must pass a toughness test or suffer wound with no armor saves.
Pit of Slime: Range 24" Target unit must pass strength test or it may not move or shoot until next friendly magic phase.
Rancid Visitation: Magic missile range 24". Enemy unit sufferes D6 strength 5 hits. Target must pass toughness test of take d6 more. Continues until test is past.
Shrivelling Pox: Pick a single enemy model within 24" LOS required. Target must pass a toughness test or take D6 wounds, no armor saves.
Plague Wind: Single enemy unit within 18". Every model in the unit must pass a toughness test or suffer a wound with no armor saves. Unit must take a panic test if reduced by 25%. After panic tests, a nurgling base is created for every 3 unsaved wounds. forming a new unit within 3 inches of the old unit. Worth 50vp.

JvK :happy: