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I was at my local independent retailer today, getting the new white dwarf (much better than recent issues) and some black paint, when I saw a strange book on the counter. It had the same insignia as on the back of this months' WD. I though to myself, Could it be? It was. The 5th edition rulebook. I started to skim through it, and found to my delight, there was a fair amount of fluff for every army! I dont have the 4th Ed. big book, so I'm not sure if this is common practice. There is also an entire section of the book devoted to bouilding an army. And while looking at the orks part, there were the contents of the black reach box (minus the nobs, because that 'chunk' of the army was for a base(Ill have to bring my camera next week)).The Nobs, were somewhere else, but they were unfamiliar looking nobz! The boyz have no nobz, sluggas and choppas, and have one big shoota each (if memory serves). They also look veeery pretty, maybe even batter than multi-part boyz. The warboss has a slugga and a power klaw. 'Bout time GW made a PK warboss. The deth koptas look a bit more like traditional helicopters, with one set of three blades, with orky spikes, of course. In the other part of the rulebook (the fluffy part), there seems to be a map of the galaxy for every army (I remember seeing one for orks, dark eldar, 'nids, 'crons, and the Imperium). For the 'bad' races there is a map of known attacks and the such. Orks, obviously is the most busy.There is a 'hierarchy of the imperium page', with a desription of every level, from the Astartes to the Emporer, with a description and some art. Thats all I can remember for now, If I recall anything, I will post it.
Last edited by Hemogoblin; May 31st, 2008 at 22:49. Reason: proofreading, forgot to do it
Interesting. Did no-one notice you pick up a bit of top-secret tabletop gamer gold??
Sounds pretty good, though, do you know why your Independant retailer would have a copy?
Dunno, mine has a copy as well (got about two hrs of alone time with it too )
Blais's Paint Studio-Getting broken armies good soft scores since 2009
I have no idea why they had it. I just got lucky
Most Rogue Traders have one by now, they got their in-store copies early for people to have a look at, and perhaps for some early games to be played with the new rules.
Pictures of the Black Reach models are on the tubes. BOLS collected them here:
Bell of Lost Souls: SNEAK PEAK: 5th Edition Boxed Set Minis
Bell of Lost Souls: SNEAK PEAK: Plastic Deffcoptas
dem marines is gettin weaker boyz!
looky at dose slings - day can't hold dir gunz up!
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Legion Of Jaffa Consuming Hatters and Terribly Superfluous
yeah, our independant retailer has had theirs for 5 or so days. Do we know if they're ever going to release a smaller book with all o the rules but none of the extra hoo-hah like they did with Battle for Macragge?
There are conflicting reports, but the general consensus is that Black Reach will contain an abbreviated version of the book that does not contain all of the rules, only the ones necessary to play with the included models. I think that is appropriate; if you are going to play the game, at least support it by buying a full rulebook.
I have already read the new rule book quite thouroughly and I can say that a lot of the fear mongering that was going on is completely unjustified. The new rules actually speed up the game immensley as I had the pleasure of playing a game with these rules.
Rending for example still ignores armour saves so you can all relax but it only does an extra D3 of damage against vehicles (Not so powerful rending pony armies now ).
Feel no Pain has changed a little in that if a model suffers a wound wether it be in the shooting phase or the assualt phase and you don't get an armour save (ie: high AP weapons, rending, powerweapons, etc....) or the strength of the attack is twice the toughness of that model then you cannot roll for Feel no Pain, period!
Gets Hot now only applies on the roll of a 1 and can be offset by re-rolls.
The vehicle damage tables are a little more refined now but entaglement is now gone.
Overall I am quite pleased with this new edition.
Basically life sucks, there is only war and you're probably gonna get eaten by Tyranids, have fun.