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eldratch the fallen · November 1st, 2009, 14:52

like i said maybe theyll change the way fear works as thats the biggest complaint i have with the rules now.
and whil i realise that doing an army book fixes way more problems than a new main book does the main book affects everyone where as an army book is for that army and could take an awful long time to get round to your paticular army.

again thats just my 2 cents

Akaroth · November 1st, 2009, 15:56

I spose fear could do with refining, the auto-break is a tad over-powered. I just thought though, they could bring back the proper rules for sieges, that would make my day. Plus dwarfs would be awesome in a siege

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The bearded one · November 1st, 2009, 16:05

Toning fear down indeed. Like -1 to hit instead of 6's if you outnumber the fearcauser but fail the test. -1 or -2 on your breaktest when losing to a fearcausing unit that outnumbers you.

BustaCaps · November 1st, 2009, 16:20

I doubt they will change fear, fear has been like this for as long as I can remember playing the game. For the most part it seems to work fine, since most of the time either you have small units causing fear, which are pretty good in hth, or you have large units which suck in hth. What breaks it is deamons, as they can have large units which are great in hth that cause fear, so it's not so much fear that is a problem, more so the deamon book is the problem.

I hope 8th edition is a little more far off than 2010, as they still have a lot of books to update, and i hope they can at least update them all before the new edition comes around, and it doesn't turn out like 40k were you have some armies that go 2-3 editions without an update.

The bearded one · November 1st, 2009, 16:50

Such a paradox really that most fearcausing units aren't really that scary ingame :p

"O, no! It's a horde of zombies with WS1, S2 an T2! We can't hope to win a combat with them!"

"AAA! Ogres are charging us! And the only thing we have to go on is ranks, outnumber and the fact Ogres have low WS and don't wear armour!"

"Help! Daemons are chopping us up with WS5 and S5, burning us with sorcerous fire, poisoning us with their very presence, and piercing our armour! We're doomed, for real this time!" <- these are actually scary

Kelter Skelter · November 1st, 2009, 17:36

zombies are scary

plus they're flesh walls in combat, they need something

Tyfus · November 1st, 2009, 18:06

O&G has been corrected to Q1 2011.

Related to the main rules i would expect 8.ed. to include a workover in the mission/object-appartement.

The bearded one · November 1st, 2009, 18:20

I can kill 15 zombies in 1 round of combat ith my longbeards and thane, not really a flesh wall, more a... bump?

Anyway, I'm curious about the new boxed set. But when was the last one, before skull pass released? Skull pass hasn't been out that long has it?

Tyfus · November 1st, 2009, 18:25

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Anyway, I'm curious about the new boxed set. But when was the last one, before skull pass released? Skull pass hasn't been out that long has it?

The 7.ed box - Battle for Skull Pass - is from autum 2006.

The 6.ed box - with Orcs and empire - i think is from 2000.

lewbot1 · November 1st, 2009, 18:43

I'm also curious about the new boxed set, what armies do you guys think will feature in it? I personally hope they go for something a bit different from previous editions, maybe leave the O&G at home and try Beastmen,

They are pretty important in the warhammer world, being all over the old world, but they also have pretty valid reasons for fighting most armies.

Also, as their book is (probably) going to be redone in 2010 they could be primed for 8th anyway, Roll on beastmen I say! But who would they fight?

November 1st, 2009, 14:52	#11 (permalink)
eldratch the fallen Fallen so far... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: in your mind, playing with your thoughts. Age: 19 Posts: 233 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 50	<a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> like i said maybe theyll change the way fear works as thats the biggest complaint i have with the rules now. and whil i realise that doing an army book fixes way more problems than a new main book does the main book affects everyone where as an army book is for that army and could take an awful long time to get round to your paticular army. again thats just my 2 cents __________________ is it just me or is 6 battlewagons in 1000pts overkill??

November 1st, 2009, 15:56	#12 (permalink)
Akaroth Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 18 Posts: 191 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 12	I spose fear could do with refining, the auto-break is a tad over-powered. I just thought though, they could bring back the proper rules for sieges, that would make my day. Plus dwarfs would be awesome in a siege . __________________ "Countries are actually closer than you think...Pilots just fly aeroplanes around longer to make you THINK they're far away."- Bill Bailey Fight with the gobbos

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The bearded one stubborn isn't stupid.. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Karak Rotterdam Age: 18 Posts: 576 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 24	Toning fear down indeed. Like -1 to hit instead of 6's if you outnumber the fearcauser but fail the test. -1 or -2 on your breaktest when losing to a fearcausing unit that outnumbers you. __________________ My dwarf army - come take a look at the majesty of 1500 pts of beards! My lizardmen army - rejoice in the sight of the servants of the old ones

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The bearded one stubborn isn't stupid.. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Karak Rotterdam Age: 18 Posts: 576 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 24	Such a paradox really that most fearcausing units aren't really that scary ingame :p "O, no! It's a horde of zombies with WS1, S2 an T2! We can't hope to win a combat with them!" "AAA! Ogres are charging us! And the only thing we have to go on is ranks, outnumber and the fact Ogres have low WS and don't wear armour!" "Help! Daemons are chopping us up with WS5 and S5, burning us with sorcerous fire, poisoning us with their very presence, and piercing our armour! We're doomed, for real this time!" <- these are actually scary __________________ My dwarf army - come take a look at the majesty of 1500 pts of beards! My lizardmen army - rejoice in the sight of the servants of the old ones

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Kelter Skelter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 21 Posts: 861 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 8	zombies are scary plus they're flesh walls in combat, they need something __________________ My Black Templar WIP

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BustaCaps Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 417 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 48	I doubt they will change fear, fear has been like this for as long as I can remember playing the game. For the most part it seems to work fine, since most of the time either you have small units causing fear, which are pretty good in hth, or you have large units which suck in hth. What breaks it is deamons, as they can have large units which are great in hth that cause fear, so it's not so much fear that is a problem, more so the deamon book is the problem. I hope 8th edition is a little more far off than 2010, as they still have a lot of books to update, and i hope they can at least update them all before the new edition comes around, and it doesn't turn out like 40k were you have some armies that go 2-3 editions without an update.

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Tyfus Cheeeese Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Age: 38 Posts: 376 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 60	O&G has been corrected to Q1 2011. Related to the main rules i would expect 8.ed. to include a workover in the mission/object-appartement. __________________ Norwegian players on LO join here ! Epic - The greatest game of GW

November 1st, 2009, 18:20	#18 (permalink)
The bearded one stubborn isn't stupid.. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Karak Rotterdam Age: 18 Posts: 576 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 24	I can kill 15 zombies in 1 round of combat ith my longbeards and thane, not really a flesh wall, more a... bump? Anyway, I'm curious about the new boxed set. But when was the last one, before skull pass released? Skull pass hasn't been out that long has it? __________________ My dwarf army - come take a look at the majesty of 1500 pts of beards! My lizardmen army - rejoice in the sight of the servants of the old ones

November 1st, 2009, 18:43	#20 (permalink)
lewbot1 Slann of Tlax Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Terra Age: 20 Posts: 316 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 16	I'm also curious about the new boxed set, what armies do you guys think will feature in it? I personally hope they go for something a bit different from previous editions, maybe leave the O&G at home and try Beastmen, They are pretty important in the warhammer world, being all over the old world, but they also have pretty valid reasons for fighting most armies. Also, as their book is (probably) going to be redone in 2010 they could be primed for 8th anyway, Roll on beastmen I say! But who would they fight? __________________ "Dont tell me the sky's the limit, when there are footprints on the moon."

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