Tau to be the last 40k 5th edition codex?

[nistrum]

Tbh marius, id been thinking the same thing about the wd spines, but didnt want to get shouted down over it lol. Truth is with alot of this gw is a law unto its self. Itll do what it wants when it wants to do it.

[DAMO.R]

I'm not even convinced yet that 6th edition is coming out this summer. I've said it before, rumours said it would come out last summer and we got Storm of Magic instead.

Yeah but last year we got an entire 4 months of WFB Cluster F*** and there are 3 other reasons why its more likely to come out this year:

1. Its the 25th anniversary year so there is no better time for a new edition

2. It has been the correct ammount of time between editions for a new one to be released (4 or 5 years) and that was a quote from a GW store manager.

3. Also when talking to another GW employee about the possibility of 6th Ed coming out this year and he just laughed and said, "yeah thats probably one of the worst kept secrets in the industry at the moment."

so anyway who knows we could be wrong but there are a hell of a lot more rumours about 6th Ed this year than there were last year. in fact i cant remember any from last year...

Anyway were going off topic!

i would ideally prefer the new Tau dex to DA but if Tau is indeed being written by Phil Kelly (i think that was one of the rumours) then it will be worth the wait.

[pilot00]

Id say 3 and 4 are...Dubious? I mean when had a GW manager given good rumors?I should have the next codex BT 3-4 years ago if that was the case.

The apparent releases of flyers in the newest dexes sounds a pilot too me so i would be inclined to believe that by summer we will have the new ed.

[DAMO.R]

Although i think Tau are not gonna be untill January at the earliest i will agree that they do need a lot of stuff changing in the codex for them to be more competative and have compiled a list of the changes that IMO NEED to be made.

NOTE THESE ARE JUST MY OPINIONS, NOT CONFIRMED!

1.Have Kroot Shapers as a HQ choice (which would allow for all Kroot armies)
2.Have Krootox and Kroot Hounds as seperate units from regular Kroot (Hounds as Fast Attack, Krootox as Heavy Support)
3.Make Krootox Bigger (similar to new Canoptek Spyder in size and stats, ie Monstrous creature, maximum of 3 in unit)
4.Have at least 1 other variant of Vespid (ie, regular Vespid Sting Wings as well as say Vespid Hive Warriors)
5.Bring in at least 1 other support race (rumours suggest Demiurg)
6.Make the "special issue" weapons widely available and have more variety for any new "Special Issue" stuff.
7.Give kroot a 6+ save regardless
8.Give Firewarriors a base BS of at least 4
9.Change Markerlight abilities (if Tau have descent BS anyway then they could be solely for firing plasma missiles OR have another function, but most of their current abilities are useless)
10.Keep wargear that lets them fire independantly at seperate targets
11.Give Crisis suits at least 3 wounds each OR a 2+ save
12.Have at least 2 new Battlesuit variants
13.Have a distinguishable difference between the XV15 and XV25 Stealth Suits (rules wise)
14.Allow Ethereals some form of unique ranged weapons or one use item to make them better
15.have some form of biker unit (think jetbikes but with smaller versions of Tau thrusters...or Pathfinder Petras with guns)
16.Have at least 2 more variants of tank (preferably with a new type of chassis)
17.Include the Baracuda
18.Allow Firewarriors to carry some form of Assault or Heavy weapons like smaller versions of the Flamer, Fusion Blaster, Plasma Rifle or Burst Cannon.
19.Allow Tau sergeant models to be armed with a Ceremonial Blade and Pulse Pistol (purely for aesthetic reasons)
20.Allow Gun Drones to be armed with a single heavy weapon instead of Pulse Carbines
21.Make Pulse Carbines Assault 2
22.Allow Kroot to take a pair of CC weapons or CC weapon and a Pistol (would make for 2 types of Kroot, ranged and CC)
23.If Demiurg are included, give them Ion Rifles (it only makes sense)
24.Allow for a type of Kroot Psyker (Kroot Shaman)...hey its possible!...even if only an upgrade for the Shaper
25.Add some new Characters, one for Kroot and maybe even Vespid or Demiurg.
26.Re-make Firewarriors,Vespid, Krootox, Hounds and Carnivores, Battlesuits,Farsight,Pathfinders,Ethereals,Shapers a Drones the rest are fine.


i think thats about everything i can remember.

[The Silent One]

Some of that's nice, but some of it just seems crazy wish listing. "Give Firewarriors a base BS of at least 4". They're fine the way they are because if they were BS 4 that would throw fluff completely out the window, they're not meant to be brilliant at shooting, that's why they have Markerlights and I wouldn't want them to change the Markerlights ability to give better ballistic skill.

"have some form of biker unit" Just no . They added them to the Necrons codex, and we all know how popular they are....

"Allow Firewarriors to carry some form of Assault or Heavy weapons like smaller versions of the Flamer, Fusion Blaster, Plasma Rifle or Burst Cannon" See I think this would also go against fluff, and if we're going to be getting lots of new shiny toys, we want to be spending more on them. I think all the special weapons should be saved for Battlesuits, I mean they're Veterans, there would be no reason to take them. Plus with the rumors of Fire Warriors and Devil Fish's going down in points, you'd just get mediocre versions of Imperial Guard Leaf Blowers and I don't want to see Tau sink too that. Everything else though I like and think are really good ideas.

[DAMO.R]

Fair enough i suppose. just thought it would give Firewarriors a bit more weapon diversity but making Pulse Carbines Assault 2 would be a start i suppose.

oh Maybe they should allow Crisis Suits to take 4 weapons or 3 and 1 equiptment or 2 and 2 equiptment...i mean they currently have 4slots so it just seems a waste not to fill them all. i mean there would have to be combo limitations to keep them balanced but...

and i guess Markerlights boosting BS would or could benefit Kroot and Vespid, even Demiurg (im a bit rusty on the current rules so i cant remember if Kroot and Vespid currently benefit from Markerlights.

ALSO! Aun'Vau NEEDS some form of killy death laser built into his throne (Like the prophet of Regret from Halo 2) because at the moment he is like "Haha, For the greater good i will slowly glide towards you and be crap up close!" and im like " Haha, DEMOLISHER CANNON!"...so yeah

maybe give him some really powerfull artifacts or something, i mean he is the leader of the Tau Empire after all so a special staff, thats still crap and a couple of poorly dressed bodyguards doesnt really cut it!

[The Silent One]

I know right, and it's a shame. Because the model is so gorgeous and the same with Commander Shadowsun. Great model, poor rules.

[DAMO.R]

Give Aun'Vau a Powerfull ranged weapon and artifacts

Allow Shadowsun to unleash a clusterf*** of devestation (im talkin Fusion Blasters, Built in Markerlight, a twin linked missile pod, 2+ save and some nasty special rules like a single powerfull shot or something, and yes i know its kinda like the DOW tau commander)

Make Farsight better in CC considering thats what he is supposed to specialise in, i mean i know that he is better at it than other Tau but when your a freakin armoured battlesuit with a jetpack and a huge blade, being mediocre doesnt cut it.

...wait is that really all the special characters they have? (i mean i do own the codex but havent read it for a while)

[Jared van Kell]

This is a rumour thread so please stop the wishlisting.

This is the only warning I will give.

JvK