Huge collection of rumors about the new Eldar codex

**Will Forelli Machiavelli** · June 14th, 2006 12:52

Originally Posted by Dael-Durien

I've often wondered why the warp spiders got the "Phoenix Lord shaft" as it were. Maybe I missed some fluff out there or who knows what. I doubt that they will come out with one soon, simply because it would be just that much more work for something that they do not NEED to do eminently, but I think somewhere down the line it would be great if GW released the appropriate fluff and model for a spiders Lord. It would be probably be pretty damn powerful with possible rending weapon, new exarch powers and who knows what else. But who knows if Phoenix Lords will even be in the new codex

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Speaking of which, what's the current word on the street in terms of release date for the 4th ed. Eldar codex(specifically, US release date :shifty: )? I am just getting back into 40k and I'm in statis with my Eldar models because I don't want to finalize my army and then discover that it sucks with the new codex. It's driving me up the wall! Patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue, patience...

Read warseer eldar rumours. Phoenix lords will be in the codex, just no new ones and no new models. I rather like the old ones anyway. The spiders as a whole may get rending from what i've heard

I'm not commenting as to whether that's a good or a bad thing....

**yiyan** · June 14th, 2006 14:41

Phil Kelly also said phoenix lords will be in the new codex and they will be one awsome HQ choice. Even better then what they are, i cant remember exactly what he said but it was on the lines of the phoenix lords will be exceptionally good in thier chosen field. as for all that crap about the starcannon moving down to heavy 2, i really dont care as long as GW balance the weapons list and give us something else to choose.
Eldar palyers cop a lot of slack for making completly cheesy armies but for all you non-eldar players look at the codex and tell us what you would choose. no weapon in the entire eldar codex comes close to being as effective or reliable as the starcannon, wrathlords and falcons are cheese well maybe we should start taking that worthless lump of expensive metal the Frie Prism or how bout those overprised dead people who are a rail guns subunation shots best friend shoot and wat a waste of 200pts. the eldar codex is unbalanced and in all fairness it's GW that made all eldar players have no choice but to exploit the current codex. i personally would like to see a better range of eldar to choose from atm my hawks, reapers, guardians, avengers, avatar spears, jetbikes, scorpians, rangers and even the supposed strongest phsyker the farseer have taken backseat to the kick ass units in current codex.
For the eldar palyers who hate the avatar becoming a special character who is summoned think about this in the battle of iyandon they summoned the avatar, he is fragment of thier god he would not be waiting around playing cards with his fellow warriors waiting for war. with the rumours a boost in bounts but a much better character and he is spose to be balanced with those of the greater daemons.

**yiyan** · June 14th, 2006 14:43

and one more thing i never check my posts for spelling mistakes or bad grammer.

**Da Mighty Camel** · June 14th, 2006 15:31

Summoning the Avatar is something they have "stolen" from the Epic Eldar armies. There he is summoned to the battle by a Farseer, moves around and kills a lot (he is really good. And free!) and then disapears back to the Webway to assist in other battles.

I'm thinking something like modified Deamon-summoning.

About Spiders got no Lord, same is for the Spears. I think it is like that becuase they arn't one of the original Aspect Shrines, like the Avengers and Banshees.

**yiyan** · June 14th, 2006 15:48

mighty camal is right bout that they are not part of the original aspects in story or in models. spears and spiders didnt make thier first appearence until last eldar codex update (i think). i would like to see them added to the list though i think spider lord would be kinda cool. you wouldnt want to losoe him in the warp though, stupid doubles rule hopefully that changes to just the double 1 or double 6.

**ammedie** · June 16th, 2006 00:04

yea we get loads of stick for taking starcannons but realisticaly there sint another option

i have most aspects but they cant do bull same with suport weapons

the idears for the new codex seem to be a good thing

its proberbly best to think of the avatar as a special carector like the c'tan there specials but you dont need oponents permission but putting them there means they can make them more uber and unique and perople are less likly ot take them

i do hope that they keep fortune for the powers but some powers like the ones in dawn of war wouldnt go a miss
farseers that assist in deployment and first turna nd reserves i think are fully and suefull powrs to have

**inquisitor_coteaz** · June 27th, 2006 18:31

whoa man that stuff sounds good

**inquisitor_coteaz** · June 27th, 2006 18:37

whoa man that stuff sounds good

**Jared van Kell** · June 27th, 2006 19:08

Originally Posted by ammedie

Its proberbly best to think of the avatar as a special carector like the c'tan there specials but you dont need oponents permission but putting them there means they can make them more uber and unique and perople are less likly ot take them

I agree with this idea. Fluff wise the avatar really is only summoned in the most dire of circumstances considering that they have to sacrifice the life of an exarch to do so.