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If rumors are true, then all DA marines will come with bolt pistols as standard. If so, will captains/masters still be able to select 2 weapons, 1 one handed and 1 two handed? So my master with PW and SB should get and additional attack from the pistol even if he fires the SB before charging, correct?
Secondly, if my plasma gun wielding marine is also equipped with a bolt pistol, can I elect to fire the pistol and not risk overheating to kill a grot?
No, as one of the weapons would replace his bolt pistol. Models can ONLY have 2 weapons (1 two handed, and 1 to 2 one handed, depending if you have the two handed or not), nomatter what. There are only a few exceptions to this rule (An eldar... something)
Correct, he may choose to fire EITHER weapon in his shooting phase, but not both.
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Bit early to be arguing about the mechanics until the codex is released, anyway!
Last edited by scarletsquig; January 24th, 2007 at 01:07.
Not all codices restrict characters to two weapons. The SM codex for instance permits you to select two from the armory. So for instance if you are equipping a Chaplain or Librarian who comes with a weapon to begin with you could conceivably have 3 weapons on the model.
Actually, supposedly, Dark Angels characters will be able to have the 2 selected weapons AND the bolt pistol. Azrael, at least, because GW wants to give the chapter masters 6 attacks (on the charge) and everyone else 5 (supposedly characters with 3 or more base attacks will not be able to take terminator honours).
But yes, Dark Angels tactical marines will all have bolt pistols + their other weapon. This is GW's way of making DA less shooty based (well, actually more assault based). So if they want to assault, instead of skipping the shooting phase because of rapid fire denying you a charge, they can fire their bolt pistols and charge. That's three S4 attacks from everyone.
Actually it's 2, 1 for each marine and 1 for the charge, none of them have an extra ccw so they don't get the extra attack for having 2 ccw.
What the free pistol implies is that if your tactical marines are about to get assaulted, you can choose to fire the pistols and charge yourself instead. Even with out the extra attack (pistol + CCW) this has some good advantages.
1. you gain a +1 attack for charging.
2. you deny the enemy the +1 attack for charging
3. you deny the enemy any other charging bonuses, ie furious assault.
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I don't know why people just don't wait for the codex and it read it then :book:.
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The idea about Dark Angels getting the bolt pistols gives me mixed feelings. On the one hand, Dark Angels are known for that badass image of them on the move with nothing but a bolt pistol, firing away, but giving it to them seems to contradict their old story of them holding their ground stubbornly as they fire. With the whole counter charge thing, it seems like they'd end up behaving like insane Space Wolves instead of stubborn, immovable Dark Angels.
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I'm not sure where it says that the Dark Angels were primarily a shooting-oriented army, just that they were stubborn, which means that they lend themselves more easily to being a shooting-oriented army. I prefer this move, to be honest, as it makes them slightly more flexible and, if the new Combat Squad rules are true, they are going to have a lot of unique flavour as it is.