Rumour: Next 3 40k 'dexs

[minus_t]

OK, now I'm sure there isn't really any need to say this again, but Orks are getting pushed back because GW want to do them properly. Same as the Eldar, remember?
They were (apparently) having some problems making ork vehicles look as they wanted, so they've given themselves a bit more time. I for one would much prefer a brand new, balanced-ish codex with amazing models released a year later, than a rushed, botch job.

Also, Marines get multiple codecies because they are definately GW's poster boys. If you have never looked at a space marine and though 'that's cool', then you probably don't play the hobby.
I for one enjoy having multiple distinct space marine armies, especially if they all end up as different from each other as DAs and BTs...

-t.

[Da Mighty Camel]

Exactly, -t, well put. Do you want another 3rd edition codex? No? Didn't think so.

[Ancalagon]

I agree with t too, as much as I hate the fact that half of all 40k players hate marines, and as much as I want to hate marines myself, I can't help but love them. In fact if I wasn't a fantasy player I'd probably be collecting Salamanders right now.

It is a shame that Orks are having to wait though. I'm thinking about getting some Orcs and Goblins and it makes me sad that their 40k counterparts are still waiting for an update.

[Lictor1989]

So they are pushing orks back just cause they can't get their vehicles right...sounds pretty lame to me. I say just put the vehicles on hold and work on the codex instead. Models are nice and all but really they can come out on a later date as they do for some models anyways. Not to mention with the way GW has been doing lately they are doing a Xenos or traitor then a SM. So basicaly the orks have to wait after another codex just cause they are SM which is bogus.

Either way I think it is quite silly that GW is pushing back orks as it just seems so silly.

[neurodisruptor]

What I think is silly is that they don't have every codex ready for release with each new edition of the rules. That would make sure that each one is balanced with all of the rest, and in keeping with their vision. It would also cut the power creep way down, as it would only happen once every edition. It might even avoid contradictions between rules.

But then, that wouldn't be the most profitable technique would it? You couldn't hype a new army every 3 months and convince everybody to buy the next new thing. Unless of course, you believe that making a good game and happy players is good business.

They should really consider reworking each codex in the same order thay did them before, so that everyone has about the same wait. My poor buddy with his Orks...and he's the most fun to play with.

I used to be put off by numerous SM books, but now I look at it this way. If half the people in the game play Marines, at least there is some variety...

[xinsanityx]

why are they giving space wolves, black templars, and dark angels whole books but sticking the blood angels in a white dwarf? I thought there were lots of blood angel players, at least there are in my area.

I don't play blood angels or any space marine chapter anymore, but they were my first army, so i have a soft spot for them. I was actually thinking about starting a blood angel army again when their new rules came out, but not if they're just gonna be stuck in a white dwarf. Kinda saddens me.

[Ancalagon]

Originally Posted by xinsanityx

why are they giving space wolves, black templars, and dark angels whole books but sticking the blood angels in a white dwarf? I thought there were lots of blood angel players, at least there are in my area.

I don't play blood angels or any space marine chapter anymore, but they were my first army, so i have a soft spot for them. I was actually thinking about starting a blood angel army again when their new rules came out, but not if they're just gonna be stuck in a white dwarf. Kinda saddens me.

From what I gather the White Dwarf rules will be to give the BA players something new to work with while they're waiing for their new book. I'm pretty sure they will get a 4th ed Codex. After all, they're a marine chapter. What marine chapter won't get a 'dex?

[Da Mighty Camel]

Originally Posted by Lictor1989

So they are pushing orks back just cause they can't get their vehicles right...sounds pretty lame to me. I say just put the vehicles on hold and work on the codex instead. Models are nice and all but really they can come out on a later date as they do for some models anyways. Not to mention with the way GW has been doing lately they are doing a Xenos or traitor then a SM. So basicaly the orks have to wait after another codex just cause they are SM which is bogus.

Either way I think it is quite silly that GW is pushing back orks as it just seems so silly.

That, and they need to work more on teh codex itself. The codex is almost completely done and while they wait for the Orks turn they will have a head-start with the other books and such.
It's not only the veichles fault.

neurodisruptor: because that would cause a massive pressure on the development team. They are about 20 or so employes and playtesting and creating a new codex ain't that easy. It's a lot of work.
Doing a dozen or so at the same time would be suicide.

I don't care if they release several SM codicies. More codicies means more fluff and pretty models and that makes me happy.

[Demandred]

I have to say that while I have been waiting for a new ork codex for a looong time, if GW wants to take a couple extra months to make sure its a top quality release with awesome mini's I cant really say that I mind much. Look at the silver lining, it gives those of us who want to start orks extra time to save cash for our horde of greenskins.

Also, since I am slightly biased toward the space pups (played both SW and 13th Co.) Its pretty easy to see why GW would give SW a codex and BA a WD supplement. Honestly, the only MAJOR differences between BA and 'nilla marines can be counted on one hand, while SW have a huge deviation from the standard marine chapter.

However we all are pretty sure that BA will be getting a codex of their own soon anyways. Its just fitting that the chapter with more unique units and special rules get theirs first.

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On a side note (merely because I am a nitpicker)

Originally Posted by Driftster

Wolves don't need a new one quite yet.

Think about it, they're a tradition based nomadic society...

How much chance will there be? Enough to make a dex? I highly doubt it, and new models are born with every other chapters dex debut, just throw a pelt on them and boom new model...

SW aren't based on a nomadic tradition, they are based on a Nordic tradition, and like I said before there are more special units and rules to put into a new wolves codex then there are in the BA codex. Unless GW makes a HUGE change in the BA rules/units

And when it comes to models spacewolves have a far more unique look to work with than BA models would. the Wolves and wold pelts, and fur cloaks, and all sorts of Viking-esque paraphernalia to work into awesome new models. With the BA, what is really different between them and normal marines? except for their blood red/black armor

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Sorry if my post seems like I am trying to turn this thread into "which chapter deserves a codex more" type of thing. I was just trying to state my opinions on why it makes sense for SW to get a new codex before BA.

[Da Mighty Camel]

BAs are quite guaranteed a Codex. Along with the Ultras, Wolves and Darkies, the BAs were one of the first to get an actual Marine codex (Codex Angels of Death, along with the Dark Angels in one book) and GW sees them as a "traditional" chapters, meaning that they will recieve a 4th ed. dex sooner or later.