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I am only building my first 2k skaven army and would like some advice heres what i have so far but nothings written in stone.
Lord: warlord + rat ogre bonebreaker+ foul pendant +dispel scroll+ warlock augmented weapom=255
Heroes:Assassin + skalm=150
Plague Priest + level2 +Plague Furnace +dispel scroll =310
Core:20 clanrats + spears and shields+ clawleader + warpfire thrower =178
20 night runners +night leader =168
20 stormvermin +command +grand banner of clan superiority + shields + warpfire thrower=280
6 Giant rats + packmaster=26
Special:20 plague monks + command + storm banner=215
2 rat ogres + pacmaster + upgraded to master moulder and master bred rat ogre + things catcher=148
6 gutter runners + poisoned attacks+death runner +slings=120
Total:2000 any observations?
i would -
- loose the warlord and beef up the ogres maybe toss in skeewl? since that looks like where he is going.
- loose the assassin and go for an engineer with a doom rocket+ p stone.
- no point to giving the night runners slings, give them a warp grinder and pop up in their back field...then they get to charge the turn they emerge!!! bye bye cannon crew and bolt throwers.
- drop the gutter runners, they never really bring anything to the table, weak h2h, weak shooting, and weak leadership and too expensive.
- if you want skirmishers go for censor bearers, they can take things down much better than themselves and have WAY better survivability with T4 rather than GR with 6+ ward.
- i usually try and take clan rats in units of 25 as to keep that rank bonus for just 10 pts is a good idea.
if you already play fantasy, play test this army and see where the strengths and weaknesses are for each unit, thats the best way to see what you should buy or not...untill you start expanding
cheers man the prob is ive bought all but the core units cos they looked cool and i dont want to have wasted a few hundred quid, instead of the warlord what wud u say? vermin lord?
vermin lord...no i would say grey seer thanqual, he always gets the 13th spell to go off
ur army looks good, dont worry about my opinion, happy gaming dude
are the stormvermin really worth the points? do they hold up against other elite infantry? with the warlord with them anyway
In My Opinion, no, best infantry in the book is the plague monks with the furnace.
i rarely take stormvermin, i was really excited about them when i first stared skaven oh so many years ago, but they die just as easy as clan rats and get the same attachments, so i would say the 4pt less clan rat is better than the stormvermin. i usually take the doom flayer, when going against shooting armies, and rat guns and warp fire throwers when i dont expect alot of shooting.
what do you build a doom flayer from? i didnt see any in the store
haven't built one yet....GW has a lot of models currently that only exsist in the army books, have a few ideas though as this is my new favorite attachment im going to need at least 2, they use the same base size as the other teams so play a few games with them proxy to see if you like them before you convert anything.
still waiting for a HPA, Throg, Valkia, and its pretty dumb when you have to have the appropriate model to play in a GW turny, im sure beasts and every other new book will be "missing" a few models.
i sort of blew a couple of hundred euro on skaven during the week and made this army list:
Warlord, rat ogre bonebreaker (i used the boneripper model), warpstone armour, foul pendant, blade of corruption 260
Plague priest, plague furnace, level 2, dispel scroll, worlds edge armour 335
Assassin, tail weapon, poisoned attacks, dispel scroll 168
27 clanrats, command, spears, shields 155
20 night runners, slings, night leader 168
20 stormvermin, command, grand banner of clan superiority, warplock pistol, warpfire thrower 273
5 giant rats, packmaster 23
20 plague monks, command, storm banner 215
6 gutter runners, death-runner, poisoned attacks, weeping blade 144
2 rat ogres, packmaster, master-bred rat ogre 103
I massacred a dark elf army the only thing i lost was my giant rats, doomwheel and assassin. truly the great horned rat favours me!
-should give the priest the plague censor, makes him S6 in the first round of combat.
-dont think the assassin can have a dispel scroll, only wizards can have arcane items...
-and the assassin comes with poison attacks (pretty sure anyways) if so, that plus the scroll means you got about 40pts to spend...may i suggest the weeping blades?
-if your opponent (aka dark elves) ever figure out to target shooting at the warp fire thrower it will show you the value of the doom-flayer.
nice job on the massacre thought!!!!