1500 pt tourny list advice needed

[overlordmrt]

Lord

Grey seer

Heros

Chiefton
halbred
Enchanted sheild
tailsman of preservation

Warlock Engineer lvl 1
Warp Energy Condensor

Core

30 clan rats
musician
standard bearer
claw leader

5 giant rats, pack master

5 giant rats, pack master

50 slaves

50 slaves

Special

30 plague monks
musician
standard bearer
plague banner

5 Gutter Runners
slings
poision


4 Rat Ogers
2 pack masters

Rare

wlc
wlc

Total = 1500


The plan is to put the seer, lock, and chiefton in the clan rat unit with full command to keep the seer out of combat. The clan rats will line up in the middle with both blocks of slaves next to them and flanker units of plague monks and ogers out side of them. Gutter runners hunt war machines. Giant rats will also hunt war machines or disrupt movement.

[kevin vanrooyen]

I'm pretty new to skaven so this may not be the best advice but i've found my Grey Seer to be enough magic for low point games, instead of your engineer i'd get a cheiftain and upgrade him to be a BSB with the banner of the under empire.

It costs 10 points more but those 2D6 hits at the start of combat and re-rolls to your leadership have already saved my bacon on a number of occasions.

If he goes with the plague monks you have a unit with which to smash through your opponents lines.

Those gutter runners seem quite expensive, you're spending 90pts on 5 guys that arent exactly tough and dont do much damage. I'd rather use those points to get another two rat ogres and the points for the aformentioned BSB.

Finally i'm not sure where the grey seer is going but wherever it is your opponent will probobly hit it with a warmachine or two, an ironcurse icon costs less than three slaves and can save a few rats from mortar and organ gun shots that eat through my units.

[overlordmrt]

Would the storm banner be a better option for the bsb and I was looking to use the gutter runners as war machine killers. Are there better ways to kill war machines. Thanks

[kevin vanrooyen]

Storm Banners are effective against shooting heavy armies and I have not come across too many of them locally, also as the point level increases they become more useful as your opponent will probobly use more warmachines and missile troops. I dont think you need it at 1500pts, besides it can stop your own stuff from shooting.

Canons are an easy way to take out enemy warmachines, because they do multiple wounds and can get a high strength a bolt of warp lightning can easily silence an enemy mortar, besides you have the giant rats as backup warmachine hunters.