Ravenwing 2000 points(Bike Army)

[Grim_Reaper46]

In this army list,I have 22 bikes.I done my best to balance it out,where I have alot of assualt,and shooting.Its won once and lost once,the win was against Imperial guard,he didnt take no tanks,and against deathwing screwed up by choosing a bad tactic and bad rolling.Btw against Imperial guard,they had Cypher and 17 of the fallen.Cypher escaped but all the 17 of the fallen were captured .About the bolt pistol,I had to argue with my mates over getting a extra attack,by giving my HQ's a bolt pistol on a bike.I couldent find the rule until then I wont put in a bolter pistols.So if you guys know where that rule states that,please tell me.

HQ-

Master of the Ravenwing on Bike-Power W.

Chaplain S.-Articer Amour,Bike,Terminator H.,blades of Reason-170 pts

Troops

4 bikes sgt Terminator H.,Power W.-185 pts

4 bikes sgt Terminator H.,Power W.-185 pts

4 Bikes 1x Melta Gun sgt Terminator H.,Power W.-185 pts

5 Bikes 1x Melta Gun Sgt Termiantor H.,Power F.-240 pts

5 Bikes 1x Melta Gun Sgt Termiantor H.,Power F.-240 pts

Fast Attack

3 Land Speeders-1x Assault cannon each,and 1x HB each- 240 pts

2 Land Speeders-1x Assualt cannon each,and 1x HB each -160 pts

1 Land speeders-1x Assualt cannon and one Melti-Melta-95 pts(Tank Hunter)

Heavy Support

1x Attack Bike-Melti-melta-70 pts

1x Attack Bike - 55 pts

1x Attack Bike - 55 pts

[Jhagadurn]

hmm... you have 6 LST's.... I think I would make 4 of them the configuration of AC+HB, and 2 have AC+MM. For heavy support, I would take 2 bikes, with multimeltas. Your troops look cool. Did you think about dropping the master and chaplain and do master of ravenwing?

[urbanknight]

he did. mounted him on a bike too....

Honestly I would be more liable to put the master in his speeder of ultimate destruction.. yes its expensive, but it chews through stuff good.

[Silver Wings]

The majority of your Bike Squads do not have 2 melta guns or a Powerfist Sgt. Both of which are neccesary in my opinion.
Do you want a 185pt unit locked in an unwinable combat with a Dreadnought?

The Master of the Ravenwing isn't that useful. The Chaplain will do far more for you.

Also note that there are no rules against using 2 close combat weapons on bikes. So all your Sgts/Charecters can get an extra attack.

Checking with the rulez boys means you can use 2 c.c weapons on a bike because it doesn't say you can't.

I would drop the 2 Heavy Bolter attack Bikes for annother LST.

[ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar]

I have to disagree with wings on the master of ravenwing, as first you must either buy him or the skimmer, and second picking out heavy weapons, or sgts, is great. other then that, hes pretty much nailed it. You should probably field 9 landspeeder tornados in 2000. peace

[rawhead]

hmm... you have 6 LST's.... I think I would make 4 of them the configuration of AC+HB, and 2 have AC+MM. For heavy support, I would take 2 bikes, with multimeltas. Your troops look cool. Did you think about dropping the master and chaplain and do master of ravenwing?

can you have assault cannon and multi meltas on a speeder? i wish!

[Ezekiel1990]

I have to disagree with wings on the master of ravenwing, as first you must either buy him or the skimmer, and second picking out heavy weapons, or sgts, is great. other then that, hes pretty much nailed it. You should probably field 9 landspeeder tornados in 2000. peace

I have found him extremely useful. I was able to kill 3 Terminators in one turn with him and then the other two the next turn, and survived about 4 glancing hits. When playing Tau or Eldar (with mulit-wound models with toughness 3), it is handy to instakill a leader, especially for hunting the fallen.

For bikers, I suggest the following squads:
5 bikers, 2 meltaguns, veteran sergeant w/ powerfist, multi-melta attack bike
3 bikers, 2 plasma guns.

The first squad is very detailed as per the bike tacticas.

The second squad (although tricky) is useful against space marines, especially if you are going against Terminators, because 2 turns of shooting will more than make up for the 130 pts of 2 (very mobile) plasma guns.

[Librarian Augustine]

also all seeing eye is fantastic and I would only take speeders if I had the master of the ravenwing in a speeder in my army

[Grim_Reaper46]

can you have assault cannon and multi meltas on a speeder? i wish!

well your wish came true:w00t: ,only ravenwing can do this combo

Master of Ravenwing on LS can be effective only if the army is built around him like you have alot of speeders.With him on bike,he's not much vulnerable and can handle assualt well with your bikes,so it even's out.Chaplain is very good handling Assualt,if that ever happens.I have two other list one is with MSof RW on LS and the other is bike with chaplian.Balanced out my list by doing math tonight,which was more entertaining,and can find out where your weak at.

List #1

IH=Infantry Hunter,TH=Tank Hunter,HA=Handle Assualt,HDA=Hunt Down Anything

HQ-14%

Master of Ravenwing on Bike-Power Weapon,storm shield,bolt pistol-121 pts-HA

Chaplain S.-Articier Armour,Bike,Terminator H.,bolt pistol-166 pts-HA

Troops- 37%

5 Bikes-2x Melta Guns,Terminator Honors,Power Fist,Auspex,and Attack Bike - 307 pts-HDA/HA

5 Bikes-2x Melta Guns,Terminator Honors,Power Fist-250 pts-HA

4 Bikes-1 Flamer,Terminator Honors,Power Weapon-191 pts-IH/HA

Fast Attack-24%

3 Land Speeders-All Assualt Cannons and Heavy Bolters-240 pts-HDA

2 Land Speeders-All Assualt Cannons and Heavy Bolters-160 pts-HDA

1 Land Speeder-1x Assualt Cannon,and Melti-melta-95 pts-TH

Heavy Support-23%

3 Attack bikes-165 pts-IH

3 Attack bikes-165 pts-IH

2 Attack bikes,2x MM-140-TH

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1-6 Strength Weapons(not counting bolters)-64%
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(6)Assault Cannons,(14)Heavy Bolters=20

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7-9 Strength Weapons-48%
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(6)Assualt Cannons Rending,(7)Melti/Melta guns,(2)Power Fist=15

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So doing the Math

Models - 31

Shooty Models-15 -48% Assualty Models-16-51%

Units - 11

IH-3 /TH -2/HA-5/HDA-3

IH-27%; TH- 18%; HA- 45% ; HDA -27%

So the result

My list is 64% Infantry Hunter and 48% Tank Hunter

48% shooty and 51% more assualty(which is shocking)

and majority job is handling Assualt 45% in the list,which is Ravenwing's main weakness.
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List #2 dont feel like doing math so just the amount I have in each slot section.

HQ-12%

Master of Ravenwing on Land Speeder-255 pts

Troops - 32%

5 Bikes- 2x Melta guns,Terminator Honors,Power Fist-250 pts

4 Bikes- 2x Melta guns,Terminator Honors,Power Fist-210 pts

4 Bikes- 1 Melta gun,Terminator Honors,Power Weapon-195 pts

Fast Attack-28%

3 Land Speeders-3x Assualt C.,3x Heavy Bolters - 240 pts

2 Land Speeders-2x Assualt C.,2 Heavy Bolters-160 pts

2 Land Speeders-2x Assualt C.,1x HB,1x MM-175 pts

Heavy Support-25%

3 Attack bikes- 165 pts

3 Attack bikes-165 pts

3 Attack Bikes,1x MM-180 pts

This was a fun thing to do balancing out army's,which I advise people to do but don't usually do.You know whats your list focus more in,and focus's less in.There is 20x more to it than this.To make it more balance,Its alot of work but doing probablity against every weapon and every unit in 40k.But dang thats like over 500 or 1000 more of probablity equations which I do not feel like doing,the whole game was built on math.So might as well build your list on math.