2000 Pt Raven Guard - Friendly

[Melchid]

Working on a list for a mega battle this upcoming Sunday. I'm over the pts and im having a hard time considering what to take out. Might be obvious but curious to see what other ppl think to take out:


MoS (158 )
PW, Rosarius, BP, Artificer Armour, Term. Honors, Kraks, JP

Master (162)
Artificer Armour, Paired Lightning Claws, Term. Honours, Kraks



Assault Marines (226) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PF, Furious Charge, x2 Plasma Pistols, Kraks

Assault Marines (226) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PF, Furious Charge, x2 Plasma Pistols, Kraks

Assault Marines (207) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PW, Furious Charge, Kraks


Scouts (185) (10-Man)
x9 Snipers, Missile Launcher

Scouts (185) (10-Man)
x9 Snipers, Missile Launcher

Tac. Squad (11 (6-Man)
Plasma Cannon

Tac. Squad (105) (6-Man)
Lascannon


Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon

Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon

Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon


Devastator Squad (27 (10-Man)
x4 Missile Launchers

Predator Destructor (128 )
H-Killer Missile, Smoke Launchers, Hvy Bolters, Autocannon

Total: 2202

Like I said eariler: curious to see what others say to take out to get it at 2000 or lower. Help would be much appreciated!

[Melchid]

Gotta do it

[kshrike]

Sounds most wonderful, but my only question is why do you have a 4 missle launchers in a devastator squad? I see a lot of people that I have them, but I personally think a 2 las and 2 missle would be better

In short, Im curious why that everyon likes that combo.

[Lost Nemesis]

A little late, but I'll still comment.

Originally Posted by Melchid

MoS (158 )
PW, Rosarius, BP, Artificer Armour, Term. Honors, Kraks, JP

Krak Grenades = redundant. Remember that his Crozius is a Power Weapon, so make sure you didn't add those points. Artificer Armour isn't the best idea, as it won't help him too much - most enemies that you'll be throwing him at will negate this save anyways.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Master (162)
Artificer Armour, Paired Lightning Claws, Term. Honours, Kraks

See above for the Krak Grenades and Artificer Armour arguments. Besides that, this guy is nice, but he needs an invulnerable save! I'd recommend the Combat Shield, but if you're willing to dish out the points, an Iron Halo would be very welcome here, too.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Assault Marines (226) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PF, Furious Charge, x2 Plasma Pistols, Kraks

Assault Marines (226) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PF, Furious Charge, x2 Plasma Pistols, Kraks

I'd recommend upgrading one of these squads to an 8-man squad, so that they aren't one man down when the two ICs join the other squads. Besides that, I like 'em, but the Krak grenades are seriously not needed.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Assault Marines (207) (7-Man)
Term. Honours, PW, Furious Charge, Kraks

Not bad, but the Kraks are again not needed (unless they get them normally, anyways). The Power Weapon could be exchanged for a 'Fist, simply because you will almost always get to strike with the 'Fist anyways. I'd recommend trying to find the points to put some special weapons in here, too.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Scouts (185) (10-Man)
x9 Snipers, Missile Launcher

Scouts (185) (10-Man)
x9 Snipers, Missile Launcher

Too many Snipers! Also, you're mixing your squad ideas - the Missile Launcher is primarily anti-tank, and the Sniper Rifles are predominantly anti-infantry. I'd recommend dropping one of them down to a 6-man Sniper Squad with Heavy Bolter, then the other to maybe a 6-man Bolter Squad with Missile Launcher. Which comes out to be very cheap, at 88 points.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Tac. Squad (11 (6-Man)
Plasma Cannon

Not bad, but I think you'd do much better with a Lascannon/Plasma Gun combo here.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Tac. Squad (105) (6-Man)
Lascannon

Plasma Gun!

Originally Posted by Melchid

Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon

Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon

Land Speeder (8
Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon

Lovely.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Devastator Squad (27 (10-Man)
x4 Missile Launchers

I'd recommend dropping it down to an 8-man squad, besides that, very nice.

Originally Posted by Melchid

Predator Destructor (128 )
H-Killer Missile, Smoke Launchers, Hvy Bolters, Autocannon

Nice, but two issues - first, it's not really needed, as you have a fair amount of anti-infantry, especially in the form of Assault Marines. Second, it's not fluffy at all... Raven Guard are good at surgical strikes, using their speed (and Drop Pods) to take the enemy out.

Hope this helps!