Need Marine Help

[Cheetahfurry]

I have been playing marines for about a month now and I have to say thank you all for the help. But I keep getting my butt kicked and I am not sure what to do. I run a 1000 point list and a 1500 which seems descent all around but everyone runs so much anti-marine I am not sure what to do. Most of the people play space wolves so I have played 3 games against them in a row. Their units of longfangs with missile launchers keep ripping me apart. I have the following models avaliable (Acutally painted! Finished my last terminator today!)

Libarian in normal armor
Vulkan Hested
24 normal marines with bolters
3 marines with missile launchers
3 marines with flamers
5 terminators with bolters
5 terminators with TH/SS (Waiting for Conversion Bitz)
3 Rhino's
1 Razorback
1 Whirlwind
2 Predators with AC/LC
3 Dreadnaughts MM

I tend to run:

1k:

Libarian
2x Tac squads in Rhinos (ML/Flamer/Powerfist)
5 man squad in razorback
Whirlwind
2 Predators AC/LC

1.5k

Vulkan
2x Tac squads in Rhinos (ML/Flamer/Powerfist)
1x Tac in Drop Pod (ML/Flamer/Powerfist)
Dread in Drop Pod
Dread in Drop Pod
Whirlwind
2 Predators AC/LC

I do well in the 1k list but I get murdered at 1500. I was thinking of getting a land raider (Love them) or 2 and putting 2 of my tac squads in them.

Anyways the big question is how do I hold points and not worry all day about the 15 missile launchers turning my tanks in to mush? I really don't think I play marines right I could use some help.

[Cheetahfurry]

Anyone? I see 100 views but no posts!

[fitblonde]

dont worry they'll come.

my immediate thoughts: Against marines i would not use a whirlwind. Perhaps you can promote some of your bolter marines to sternguard. They always prove themselves useful especially in a vulkan list where you can throw in a few combi meltas and you're laughing. A popular combination is to attach a librarian to them to give them a measure of survivability (force dome) whilst transporting them from place to place (gate of infinity). Hope this helps but i dont have a very good track record with winning.

[Bdoydie]

Yeh I would suggest getting some sternguard into your list, one thing that jumps out at me is If you are taking vulkan, how many flamers, meltas and thunderhammers are in you list? because there should be loads!!, I probably wouldnt take a land raider even in a 1500 list,
if you want a land raider to take down vechicles a predator is cheaper and can do the same job,
id you want it to be a troop transport you should really put a unit of assualt terminators in it, which makes it over 400pts for a single unit (terminators and dedicated transport) and in a 1500pt game its just too much of you points on one unit IMHO