Questions about Logan Wolf Gaurd list

[Thommi]

So I have been thinking about expanding my space wolves with a Logan wing. I just don't know what kind of Terminators I should use. I was thinking about running squads of 5 with 3 power swords and 2 fists. Would TH/SS units be better even though they are way more costly? How bout dual lightning claws?

Also, are these armies usually on foot? I kinda think drop pods would be fun. And my final question... do people still usually load up on rune priests?

[theyak]

So I have been thinking about expanding my space wolves with a Logan wing. I just don't know what kind of Terminators I should use. I was thinking about running squads of 5 with 3 power swords and 2 fists. Would TH/SS units be better even though they are way more costly? How bout dual lightning claws?

Also, are these armies usually on foot? I kinda think drop pods would be fun. And my final question... do people still usually load up on rune priests?

Hi Thommi,

I was discussing this very topic on LO a couple weeks ago.
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ggestions.html (Optimal Space marine(Wolf Guard) Terminator Load-out suggestions?)

Mostly still theory but here's my reasoning.
Wolf guard is special because we can mix and match equipment in the squad at will.
I'm staying away from all assaulty except for fit for purpose reasons, when I want them to do a specific job like escort an HQ or pop out of a land raider.
Otherwise lots of storm bolters/combi are quite good.

Consider: our basic terminator is 7 points cheaper than a vanilla marine terminator equipped with power weapon/storm bolter. throw in either a wolf claw or power fist and we're STILL cheaper than a vanilla marine terminator. Add in a combi weapon and then it gets just a little more costly. Back when I played chaos, chosen terminators with 5x combi plasma and a heavy flamer was affectionately known as the "Karmoon Special". My friend uncle moonie loved this loadout... throw in a drop pod and all of a sudden you drop down, unload 10 plasma shots and a heavy flamer onto some poor unsuspecting squad and likely wipe it off the board. If they survive, you've still got terminators... put wolf claws for a measly 25pts for the squad and they can really bite back in assault.

The only issue is..... combi meltas are a pain to get hold of, simple to convert but not everyone is into conversions. I like power weapons because they're "free" but again... we get ONE in the space wolf terminator box... you can substitute GK ones but they don't look wolfy.

People still seem to love rune priests... the new psychic powers are really rather nice and I've noticed at least in my meta people have been taking psykers a lot.

[Thommi]

Sweet! Thanks a bunch for the feedback. I really like this idea. Any advice on how to convert the combi weapons?

[SJPhillyVT]

I use the storm bolter then slap the combi part on the other side. This is a combi-melta I made

[DeathPoke]

Exactley as Philly described:- How to make Terminator combi-weapons (Forge World style) - Forum - DakkaDakka

Check out his step-by-step guide in his blog.

-Poke-

[Vulcan]

with a logan wing i like to run them in large squads of 10 one squad with logan and the other with a rune priest normally for support there is a squad of long fangs, weapon wise, when i started them i had no plan so jsut built them based on cool factor, i would say go for the cyclone missile launcer with either a storm bolter or combi weapon as you can fire both at the same target, i also prefer frost weapons mostly for the extra strength it gives

[theyak]

with a logan wing i like to run them in large squads of 10 one squad with logan and the other with a rune priest normally for support there is a squad of long fangs, weapon wise, when i started them i had no plan so jsut built them based on cool factor, i would say go for the cyclone missile launcer with either a storm bolter or combi weapon as you can fire both at the same target, i also prefer frost weapons mostly for the extra strength it gives

The only issue with squads of 10 is that it really cuts down on your scoring units in place of really nasty grinders. Since there is no real extra cost between 5 and 10 terminators, running 2 squads of 5 rather than one big squad of 10 will usually be much more advantageous because of the added flexibility.
Though to confess I definitely have been thinking of taking Logan+ 9 wolf claw/TH termies and packing them in my storm eagle to go death star stuff.
as for frost weapons, I think I read somewhere that statistically(yeah, theoryhammer) the re-rolls are better than improved odds on the d6. Just like, for example BS3 twin linked(guards) has a better chance than BS4 single shot of hitting its target, for most T5 and below wolf claws are better.

[Thommi]

Oh wow that is really easy. What is the general consensus on combi plasma vs melta?

And again thanks everyone for the tips.

[theyak]

I have always preferred meltas over plasmas in the past. I liked the all around utility of being able to bust any tank,force invul saves and potentially instant death a MEQ without eternal warrior, on top of that it is an assault weapon. The new rapid fire rules makes things interesting for me though, extra range on single shot plus a move, or double tapping at 2+ saves which will likely become much more poplar is very tempting. You lose some extra punch against av13+, youll have to decide whether your list needs which more. Personally, I am puttin g cyclone launchers on each squad of termies and longfangs so I feel safe-ish against most armor, so I am taking combi plas. Also consider.... Hitting tanks in assault is much easier now.... So chainfists are a fun option too.

[Thommi]

I think I might be leaning towards plasma. My gaming group only has one full mech army. I'm not really that afraid of it though because it's unconverted steel legion so the squads are only equipped with one grenade launcher each. So far in sixth I have found that I can pretty easily assault most vehicles to death pretty easy. With marines it really hasn't seemed all that hard to charge a tank and glance the crap out of it. I'm still a little undecided about chain fists since vehicles are so much easier to take out.

This is what I'm thinking:

5x WGT
2 w/ combi and Wolf
2 w/ power fist and storm bolter
1 with wolf claw and special weapon
Drop pod

The squad is 245 without the special weapon. I'm not really sure what special weapons I will use yet. I don't have any cyclone missile launchers and am not really sure how to easily get them.