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Hello, there. Good to see another Shadow Captain. If you ever need help with the sons of Corax, feel free to PM me. To answer your question, Shrike and his Wing are definitely not worth the points. It's a suicidal point sink. I recommend you read my Raven Guard Tactica for more details. Just be aware that it'll be revised soon. My opinion on Shrike and his Wing will still be unchanged. You're better off taking either an Assault Leader, an Avenging Angel, or a Wraithmage and having them join an Elite Assault Squad. For more details (and a teaser), check out my entry in the Space Marine HQ Tactica thread stickied at the top of the page. The only time I'd ever use Shrike is for his bitz. Victorus aut mortis, -Archetype
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hmm, well considering that with the new codex those other HQ's dont exist I'd say worth it. Why? A few reasons, first terminators dont get "Strike From The Shadows" i.e. infiltrate, scout and stealth. Second Termies dont move 12" in the movement phase. Third, Termies don't get Frag and Krak Grenades. Third Shrike is fast and powerful and rend makes him real dangerous, plus his lightning claws are master crafted. Fouth thier stats combined with their rules, whilst requiring some care as they are expensive are extremely powerful when termies have "Strike From The Shadows" then Shrike won't be worth it till then I shall consider Shrike very worth it.
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He means assault squads, not termy assault squads. Archetype, can you link to the Raven Guard tactica? Personally, the only info I have on the sons of Corax is from the index astartes in an old WD. I'd like to know more if you have any more links to more fluff or anything. As for shrike, I'd personally make him and his wing just for coolness factor, but generally just use his wing as random vet sarges and stuff depending on how I make my army. Lots of scouts, infantry, and assault squads. It'd be fun having an army where nothing starts in your deployment zone. Heh.
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Victorus aut mortis, -Archetype EDIT: Phalanx, if you can PM me with the WD issue number that the article appears in, that would be much appreciated. I plan on picking up Index Astartes IV, which contains Raven Guard fluff among other things. In the meantime, here are a couple of links. Raven Guard Tactica 1.0 Raven Guard Tactica 1.1 teaser (HQ) Grimbog Elf Ater's RG fluff If you have any more questions about Raven Guard, fell free to drop a line in my inbox.
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archetype your complaining about point sink what about the termie assault squad in a landraider the raider alone is 250 and who in thier right minds wouldnt target your raider with most if not all of thier AA to take it out quickly and put u down assloads of points (alot more than shrike and wing i'd say) so if your ask me shrike will be worth it just infiltrate some other squads with him and bum rush |
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If i were to ever play Raven Guard there would be now way id take Shrike and his wing.They are a huge waist of points for what they have.Like Archetype said Assault squads are much more cost effective than Shrike and his companions and can deal out alot of damage for less points.
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Shrike is a very nice looking model though, and that's a good reason to use him as an ordinary Master. Also, i can nowhere find that Shrike cannot use the strike from the shadows rules unless accompanied by his wing, in the codex it says that Shrike posses those rules too. But since i generally stay away from special characters except for fluff reasons, i wouldn't recommend using his rules unless you are running a story-based campain.
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