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Y'know, i've played as a Harad general for a good 2 years now, but i think my tactical benefits over my friends are running out, because they're learning how i play.
My current 750 force is
A mumak of the Serpent horde, with all upgrades,
12 archers of harad,
12 Warriors of Harad
12 Corsairs of umbar, 6 with shields, 6 with boarding pikes ( Spears)
Harad warrior with banner
1 Haradrim Chieftain with spear and bow.
( the mumak and the Mahud Beastmaster chieftain count as two models, and not towards the bow limit)
This sort of army has always been a winning army, but i think i need to change it.
Recently i played a game, with that army, plus 2 hasharii , suladan, and 7 Harad raiders, 5 warriors of harad with spears, one king of harad on Horseback, against a pair of players- One with a contingent of Minas tirith and rohan, and the other with a large force of dwarves... LARGE....even for dwarves.....
And the force did ... i don't know. Would you say a Mumakil with 11 people in it, 9 wounds LEFT, against gimli and 6 Khazad guard in the last 5 turns, good?
I'd somehow managed to lose all but a near perfect Mumak.
Tell me what i should change because i know there's plenty to change, but i want someone else to give me their opinion before i change my force, dramatically.
Your friends have probably figured out that you rely on the Mumak. I would suggest more infantry and less upgrades on your Mumak: another box of Haradrim means another 24 troops, meaning that your cheap infantry can do something against the often better enemy troops (at 750pts even elite armies like Elves and Dwarves can match your list in numbers). At some point (seeing how you like your Mumak) you might want to get another, in which case you can field 2 'bare' Mumakil rather than one tooled-up Mumak for not many more points
mmhmm I agree. I want to get another Mumakil. Yes, my friend had worked out i relied on the Mumakil a lot... but he has never killed it, without at least 3 great heroes having to dispose of it ( At best it took Gil-galad, Gimli, and a flat Elendil & Isildur...)
In a 700-750 pts force i like putting in the Mumakil because i know that i won't necessarily be against too many great heroes... and that means all go for my Mumakil! yeaaah! But other than that i totally agree with you. I need to concentrate on more units.
Which is why i'ma try start collecting Mahud. Theyre great :p
Can't agree more about the Mahud. The only problem with them is Courage worthy of an Orc, other than that, man do I like them. 2 Attacks at S4 and if the Raiders charge, and most likely win, that's 7 S4 strikes?! It's a pity I can't afford them yet (my Morannon Orcs are probably jealous).
if i was to get a second Mumakil, or even another 2 mumakil, i'd probably still equip them evenly with the upgrades.
If i somehow got 2 more, this'd how i'd work it.
1st Mumakil. This is gonna be the one with the 'survival upgrades'
25 pts, for Mahud Beastmaster chieftain
Gnarled hide, 40 pts
Sigils of defience 20 pts
Total- 360 pts
2nd Mumakil. This'd be the aggressive mumakil with lots of 'kick'
25 pts, for Mahud Beastmaster chieftain
Foul temperament, 20 pts
Tusk weapons 20 pts
3rd Mumakil, this one would have the 'special upgrades, made for 'assassination''
25 pts for Mahud beast chieftain
Rappeling lines 25 pts
Rocks 20 pts
This, combined with 24 Haradrim archers, and 12 haradrim spearmen, to arm them, would cost 1261.
The other 30 required models to eliminate the bow limit over-reach, would be 28 Haradrim spearmen, costing another 168 pts, adding to 1429
I'd have a 1 banner of harad, for another 30 pts, and Suladan, another 90 pts,
This would come to 1549 pts exact.
This'd be a battleforce to be reckoned with.
Lucky for me i have all the Harad archers i need for this, 1 Mumak, suladan, 1 banner, and 17 of the Harad spearmen , meaning all i need now is 3 Mahud beastmaster chieftains, 2 more mumakil and another 23 Harad spearmen. This, added together is $350.
I'm gonna have to work.
Who would agree that this is a diabola--- absurd list, but has definetely got some 'flavor'?