Master shaper Piseth Xarath

[VB the small]

this is my entry for the SCC
Master shaper Piseth Xarath
Piseth Xarath is the master shaper of a huge kindred that has specified itself on fighting and consuming the biggest and most powerful creatures they can find. this has lead to many wars against the brutal orks but also against the endless swarms of the Tyrandis. Piseth and his Kindred are part of the great Tau Empire to get access to their weapons and to get a fast way of traveling into the greatest battles in the galaxy. Piseth always rides his Krootox into battle to get a better view over everything. The Tau Empire has found his great lust for battle a thing they can use and they sends him into the toughest battles where great fighters are needed.




point cost: 145p
May be taken as a HQ choice for a tau empire army
Stats: krootox rider: +1 WS, +2 T, +2A, +2 W, +1 LD 5+ save
Piseth rides an krootox.
Wargear:
Kroot rifle
the sparkly fist. Piseth "found" a power fist after a battle against the imperial fists. He ripped the fist of its dead owner and had the tau attach it to him permanently.
The sparkly fist is a master crafted power fist.

Special rules:
Master shaper
if your army contains Master shaper Piseth Xarath you no longer need to have 1+ tau commander and fire warrior unit as Piseth and his Kroots often fight without the aid of Tau. Piseth Xarath is an independent character but he must join a Kroot unit and may never leave the unit.

Consuming a carnifex
During a war against high fleet leviathan Piseth Xarath was so hungry that he went against the shapers orders not to eat the tyranids. It’s said that he consumed a carnifex. Since then piseths have become much tougher than an ordinary Kroot. He also has the ability to regenerate damages.

If piseth kills a model he gets the chance to regenerate a wound he has taken earlier by rolling a 6 on a dice. He may only try this one a turn. he also gets improved stats(already included in profile above)

CAN be uses in the short story contest

what do you think? I don't know how much he should cost in points please let me know what you think and help is appreciated.

[Bdoydie]

I really like the idea of a kroot character and you've done a great job,
IMO points wise I think he should cost 136pts
here is the breakdown/justification behind that number
35pts - Krootox Rider
21pts - Shaper
50pts - Comsuming a Carnifex: might be a bit steep but Im basing this on his improved stat line and regeneration rule,
after all a strength 6 toughness 5 character with 5 wounds and 5 attacks when you compare to a hive tyrant which is S6 T6
30pts - Master crafted Power fist a powerfist in SM codex is 25pts so another 5pts for master-crafted.

SO 35+21+50+30= 136pts

[Astantia]

Don't forget to add points for the force organization changes. Not taking fire warriors is a huge bonus.
In addition, he brings something to a tau army that we don't have regularly, that is, he brings close combat ability. His stats are comparable to the hq units of combat based armies, having this option in a tau army is worth more than in the other codices.
Adding things to codices isn't just take what you like from other books and mash it together. Otherwise every book would have the same options, and the character of the tau would disappear from the tabletop.

I like the idea of a Kroot army. I don't like super powered special characters that change the nature of the codex. He'd fit more if he limited the use of Tau units. Good luck. Also, maybe tone down his stats a little bit. They are ridiculous right now.

[VB the small]

well he is a kroot shaper on a Krootox that's why he get's the stat increase. the extra T is there because otherwise he could be instant killed by power klaws and similar things as he doesn't have an inv save. it's true that it's good that you don't need to take an fire warrior unit. are you suggesting that he should have rules similar to Farsight? and do you also say he is an super powerful character? I am not so sure about that.

[Bdoydie]

well he is very overpowered compared to normal shapers, but personally I dont see anything wrong with that as long as its represented through points value,
at the end of the day he get 5 strength 6 attacks standard which is ALOT, especially if he is in a full unit of kroot,
But like i said I see no problem with the rules as long as they are reflected in points cost, and if not for the SCC comp then you could always add in a couple of extra rules to balance him more,

[Polaria]

Well, he isn't really that powerfull. He is still vulnerable to being instabigged in assaults because of IC status and Power Fist (which still drops his I to 1). Not taking a single minimum unit of Firewarriors is nice from fluff and modeling viewpoint, but really only saves 60 points from army list which is already very costly so its hardly THAT good.

I'm actually a bit worried that the restrictions of having Independent Character but STILL being tied to single squad hell or high water is underpowering the character. The whole point of being IC is that you exchange the "hidden inside a squad" benefit for the "can change squads". Now you are getting the disadvanatges of both without none of the advantages.

[VB the small]

that's true I will probably change him into an ordinary IC then thanks for all the help so far! pictures will come during the weekend.

[VB the small]

so now it's updated with fluff and pictures. it's finished!

[VB the small]

Master shaper Piseth Xarath
Piseth Xarath is the master shaper of a huge kindred that has specified itself on fighting and consuming the biggest and most powerful creatures they can find. this has lead to many wars against the brutal orks but also against the endless swarms of the Tyrandis. Piseth and his Kindred are part of the great Tau Empire to get access to their weapons and to get a fast way of traveling into the greatest battles in the galaxy. Piseth always rides his Krootox into battle to get a better view over everything. The Tau Empire has found his great lust for battle a thing they can use and they sends him into the toughest battles where great fighters are needed.




point cost: 145p
May be taken as a HQ choice for a tau empire army
Stats: krootox rider: +1 WS, +2 T, +2A, +2 W, +1 LD 5+ save
Piseth rides an krootox.
Wargear:
Kroot rifle
the sparkly fist. Piseth "found" a power fist after a battle against the Crimson Fists. He ripped the fist of its dead owner and had the tau attach it to him permanently.
The sparkly fist is a master crafted power fist.

Special rules:
Master shaper
if your army contains Master shaper Piseth Xarath you no longer need to have 1+ tau commander and fire warrior unit as Piseth and his Kroots often fight without the aid of Tau. Piseth Xarath is an independent character but he must join a Kroot unit and may never leave the unit.

Consuming a carnifex
During a war against high fleet leviathan Piseth Xarath was so hungry that he went against the shapers orders not to eat the tyranids. It’s said that he consumed a carnifex. Since then piseths have become much tougher than an ordinary Kroot. He also has the ability to regenerate damages.

If piseth kills a model he gets the chance to regenerate a wound he has taken earlier by rolling a 6 on a dice. He may only try this one a turn. he also gets improved stats(already included in profile above)

CAN be uses in the short story contest

[Starslain]

sorry but i gotta point out that the imperial fist uh well fist is painted in crimson fist colors :3