Scout rule for Pathfinder Devilfish

[Rikimaru]

Originally Posted by onlainari

The key wording is that pathfinders are scouts. They use the scout rule in the codex. They may make a turn of movement, including moving 12" insider their devilfish and unloading. Devilfish aren't scouts, and thus if the pathfinders are deployed outside their fish, they're allowed to move, but the devilfish isn't.

While I follow and agree with your reasoning as technically correct, I also have to say I see the point of the others reasoning, the DF is a dedicated transport and cannot be used by any other unit, so it follows that it would be able to move to keep up with the unit, hence it should have the extra move if deployed along with the disembarked PF (but restricted to 6"), I mean it seems a bit strange that the dedicated transport would not be able to move along with its unit.
As long as the PF are deployed outside the DF at the beginning and not first disembarked I cant see a problem allowing the DF to move as part of the unit.

[Holy_Smigs]

because, in Victory point conditions the DF is counted separate from the pathfinders themselves, it implies a bit of a detachment...

think of it as an IC that the scouts can join by piling into...

if they join (get in) the scouts rule is shared,

otherwise, the DF is treated as a separate unit that cannot score (heh, funny, just like an IC...)

[Sir_Prometheus]

You can deploy them seperately. Not only that, but both the DF and the PF themselves get the scout move, sperately, if they choose.

It almost always makes more sense to just move the DF 12" and delpoy, though.

[onlainari]

How does it? If I put my pathfinders in the bottom right hand corner, and their devilfish in the bottom left hand corner almost 70" away, perfectly legal, giving them both a scout move make a huge difference over only giving the pathfinders the scout rule.

Pathfinders have the scout rule. Devilfish do not. Pathfinders devilfish is a dedicated transport, that does not actually make it a pathfinder.

[Holy_Smigs]

yeah,
if the devilfish had it's own scout move it would have it listed in it's army list entry.

again i site ICs,
an IC can't get the abilities of a squad without moving with the squad,
why should the transport.


just because the transport is unusable by others is no justification for giving it special powers.
A DF taken by firewarriors can't be used by other firewarriors,
should it get Scouts as well?
no.