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At my local club, I have gotten myself a friend who plays Skaven. Most of my games go against this guy, but I always lose. So, how do I pound his foul diseased mutants back into the ground from whence they came? What units and tactics should I use to defeat him? He usually uses two packs of Clanrats, two of Stormvermin and one of Plague Monks, backed up by a Warp Flame Thrower and a Ratling Gun. We generally play 1000 points.
Note that I'm a new player, and so don't really have much experience. Go easy on me with the "Dude, TK are made for killing Skaven. How can you lose? You suck!" I already know this.
Well, I play against Skaven a lot. And I play with vampires and borrow Tomb Kings a lot, so I can offer some advice.
One: Panic stuff. Catapults are great for that. Try using archers to thin panicking units out enough so they never come back.
Two: Fear. This should be number one. Fear is any undead armies biggest advantage. With the shoddy leadership of Skaven it really should be no problem for you. In addition, get units into the flanks and butcher them. Without strength in numbers there aint much he can do.
Three: Take out his Warplock engineers. They have very nasty magic. Try a Tomb Scorpion. They're good at it.
Four: Terror. Terror is very nasty. Anything that causes Terror is good. But I would still advise taking a catapult.
Five: Mobility.You can move faster than he can. Get flanks. Hit his artillery.
Hope this helped.
P.S. Wedge him into combats. He kills things almost as slowly as you do.
"Almost" being the operative term...
Should I use Swarms?
Also, should I run one Prince and two Priests, or two Princes, one Priest?
I would run one prince and one priest. With 2 dispel Scrolls (or the one a prince can take, dont have my AB here). Something that could be nice would be the terror mask.
Well, anyway, Skaven are generally weedy in combat, so something worth considering would be Armour of the Ages and a Sword of Might. I believe a prince can take that. Then 2 dispel scrolls on a liche. I would take a catapult (for the liche) and a unit of archers. Get your archers to pick off his artillery units first. Try and take out his basic clanrats with your infantry. A Prince with armour of the ages should be pretty untouchable to plague monks, as they wound it on 6's and it has lots of wound. Although they have a lot of attacks... Maybe put him at clanrats But he should mince any of their heros.
Scorpions, carrion (theyre good at killing warpfires and ratling guns), chariots, ushabti, anything faster than them, can be used to great effect. However, you wont be doing much maneuvering until you kill some of his magic. That is if he takes any. If he only takes 1 warplock, then you might be ok.
I wouldn't use swarms with the changed to them, and skaven always bring plenty of CR.
Any more questions? Im happy to help.
You need your magic. 1 Prince and 2 Priests at 1K always. It seems expensive, but if you look, its aout 1/3rd of your points, which is normally how much TK Character choices cost you at 2K if you take a Casket/Chariot etc into account.
So, TP w/ GW + Collar, Hiero w/ Cloak, LP maybe w/ steed, standard 1K Character Config.
SSC is vital, aim for the more deadly units.
Scorpion, use it to hit the Warmachines. Wouldnt bother with Swarms, they cant negate ranks and will fall fast to the static res. 3 chariots for flanking, and maybe fill Special with a second unit of 3, or 3 Carrion. If points will stretch, maybe 3 Ushabti... these will hit so hard the rats wont have time to squeak.
Core choices, go with large (20) units of skellie bowmen, do some damage at range as well as outnum + fear when they reach you.
Ah, once again this forum proves both friendly and helpful.
Thank you. I think I can kill him now with just a bit of practice.
Status report: While I was defeated by their smelly ways, I managed to pull it from a massacre to a solid victory. First time . My Scorpion ended up having captured two unit banners by the end of the game, and tilted the balance.
20-wide archer units are a sight to behold.