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I just started my assembly on this model last night. The tail and claws are easy enough, a little cleaning and I pinned them for strenght, nothing serious.
The legs, however, are a bit concerning for me. They are not numbered or in any way marked that I can see. I'm guessing I should pin them all as well, but how do you actually make a model that stands? One leg at a time, and then bend then after the fact? They are fairly thick legs so I'm not crazy about bending them if I don't have to...
So of course my next project is the SSC. Any hints there would be greatly appreciated too.
If you go to my LO profile and check out my TK photo album, you can see my Scorps (and SSC) there. Hopefully they will be useful.
My first, standard Scorp especially. It was a while ago that i made them, but iirc i did the body onto legs onto base first, leaving the heavy add-ons til last. The tips of the legs only just fit onto the base if you dont bend them, some even go over the edge. Can be a bit fiddly, but i think i worked with the legs onto the main bosy and positioned this on the base between each leg to check positionings... if this makes any sense at all lol. Then once all 8 legs had gone on, i glues what i could to the base. A layer of PVA used to glue on the gravel helps holding them on lol.
The SSC is something many people seem to struggle with. Personally, never used a pin in my life lol. I assembled mine in the most logical order i could see. Some bits arent even glued! like the lower bars etc between each side. Allowing for movement later on so i could position the arm.
Its kinda hard to give great advice without actually being there or on a webcam demo (thats an idea... ) but i hope this helps a little
Green stuff and glue. If you ever have a hard joint to glue together, esp. a metal-metal joint, make up some green stuff, put the glue into the joint, and then press the green stuff in to hold it. Just use enough green stuff to hold and to where it looks natural. You can cut some of the green stuff out later if you put too much in. Then just wait for it to harden and you are good. For the scorp, i attached the legs to the body first. There are a couple different leg styles. I just tried to alternate them so on one side the two middle legs where in the air, and on the other side the front and back legs were in the air, like it was skittering across the ground. Just pay attention to keeping them relatively level with each other, so you dont have a crooked scorp.
SSC was fairly easy. I pinned was the upright posts because I wanted some extra strength there.
I guess my building style is a bit different. When in doubt I pin, and I kind of thought everyone was the same. I even pinned the weapon arm on my Tomb King/Prince on foot
Generally I clean, pin, glue the pin, glue the joint, then fill after with thin amounts of green stuff, mostly as a gap filler and not an adhesive.
I'm also not so sure that I'm happy to hear that you both did the legs on your scorp first. Hope that one doesn't come back to bite me!
I did my legs first and last ;-)
I put the legs on and the the claws, tail, pinning the tail and claws. The legs promptly came off, repeatedly.
What ended up working for me was to pin the body to the base, this let me put the body where I wanted, then position the legs to match. I pinned the legs to make sure they stayed. Doing it this way allowed me to give my scorp a more rearing pose, like a threatened scorpion.
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I'm curious how you pinned to the base? I don't see an easy way to do it since the body doesn't contact the base at all...
I've started on the legs and I figure I will pin the outside four to the body for strength. The middle ones I'll just glue. Once it's all assembled, I figure I will carefully bend the legs with two pairs of needlenose pliers and then just mount it to the base with glue on all eight legs.
Hopefully it holds, and if it's an issue I'll do something on the base with greenstuff.
I have a picture of my scorpion on my computer! The way I built it was by making it look like it's leaping out of the sand! So I only had to glue 3 legs on while the rest look like they're beneath the sand. I would put up the picture but I don't know how to put a picture in a message any help on that would be nice! Plus this is a much easier (and cooler) way to get your scorpion glued!
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I found out how to get an image on here! Sorry, it's a bit small.
PS: I still haven't painted the sand yet
Last edited by AltheAlchemist; April 14th, 2009 at 03:31.
glue + accelerator = Win , use a touch then after it dries in 5 seconds put a little bit more glue around the seal and let that dry as normal for strength. works well for my scropions and ssc , and everything else i glue
I had a lot of trouble with the SSC at first but after a long time I just got it all done in an hour! I don't know how I got it glued but somehow I did, and that's all that matters! I quickly primed it so it would stick together and it came out fine in the end! But I hope it won't take me as long to finally glue it the second time around!
I would recommend gluing the posts to the creature's bodies. Then I would reccomend gluing all of the parts that connect other parts together ie: the arm of the catapult that connects the two creature's bodies together, the hook thingy that keeps the two tails together and the bridge thingy at the top that keeps the two posts together. I never actually got the feet on (because the catapult is so low to the ground that it starts acting like a see-saw when I do) but I never really pay much attention to them anyway. Maybe when I get a bit older and more experienced with gluing metal models I'll reassemble it so I get get the feet on but for now I think it looks fine by my standards and if you're having as much trouble as I did at first I don't think it would matter as much because the important thing is that it is glued together to the point where it looks like what it is supposed to look like... unless you're a perfectionist in which case ignore most of what I said. After all I'm only a freshman in high school and most people here are waaaaay more experienced than me!
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How do you use accellerator exactly? I'm wondering because I'm not sure if I should be getting that stuff on me when I'm trying to spray the model that I am holding together with my hands. So, is it okay if I get it on my hands? If not, how do I hold the model together while I'm spraying without getting it on my hands?
cost about 5 dollars for a bottle .. dont use the spray .. just lets say for skellys.. put some glu on the arm shoulder place.. and DIP the arm end to the accel. then put arm on glue .. and its stuck.. dosnt matter if it gets on your hands.. not bad. just wash your hand afterwards