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I know they kinda suck but uh.....6 inch move... 12 inch charge..all in one turn! That's not half bad What is everyone's opinions on how these guys play?
So here is the CRAZY idea I have. In a 2k list put 2 of these suckers in. Make sure you have 3 priests and a TK running around for magic support. Chariots Chariots and more Chariots XD well.. maybe not completely.. but I'm thinking a fast hard hitting army. Use Urgency to get your chariots charging / in position as well as the giants. and slam your enemy on all sides in a huge rush. Have some Carrion get behind his units in case they flee. Maybe give a priest the blade of mourning... a little something extra to help with Terror maybe.. not sure how well they work together as this is theorycrafting. But I figure... 2 Giants in a 2k list might cause your opponent to flinch. Give your king the Shield of Ptra and hit the same unit as the Bone Giant... if you make a save... they're hitting you on WS 1.
Anywho.. thoughts!? I'd love to see these guys on a list for once
Gellerlondon wrote this a while ago:
http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...one-giant.html (2250 Duel Bone Giant)
Your idea is good, mate The problem is that it requires ALOT of skills to make that list running correctly. Now we're talking synchronizing
Tell me how it goes if you play such a list Thanks!
Well firstly I would like to salute Nagash for his unrivaled diplomatic skills... I suspect he was just trying to break it gently to you bud...
If you look at the bottom of this screen you will see a number of links to different threads. These have all got titles like 'Bone Giants: Are they worth it?', Bone giants: Why does nobody like them?', 'Bone giants: Why aren't they popular?'
This is not an accident.
The reason is very simple: Bone giants are the absolute cream of the crap. Indeed, they are the shiney glace cherry atop the cream of the crap. The pinnacle of poop.
Leaving aside the inherant craptasticness of the justifyably maligned BGs for a moment, you also need to consider that by wasting both rare slots on these boys you will not be able to take either of the two best units in our arsenal: The SSC and the casket. Both of these are considered nigh on mandatory for obvious reasons that do not need reiterating yet again here.
I suggest you take another look at the stickied threads at the top of this forum. They pretty much explain why Bone giants, shield of Ptra and the Blade of mourning are all sub optimal. This list you propose is not new by any means and although it does look good on paper, it epic fails on the tabletop.
Just in case you have any lingering doubts, please feel free not to take my word for it:
PS. Did I mention bone giants are utter ****?
Because Sun Tzu would play Tomb Kings...
Duel BGs can look cool, but to be perfectly honest, its a few hundred points down the drain. They may work against specific enemies, but in general the fact that they only have WS3 and U.Ass. only works on the charge makes them pretty... weak. Oh, and they're vulnerable to any sort of warmachine lol. In addition, they really need to flank any ranked enemy unit to try and get an upper hand. With their extra movement, more Chariots are probably just the better option here.
Im not saying dont use them, cos it should be fun But... maybe proxy, at least to start with. Id advise against splashing out £60 on two of these dudes. Maybe one if you love the model (If you want one cheap, and live near me, i never use my BG any more )
Now that the bone giant bashing is out of the way, I say go for it. I have been playing some 850pt modified warbands games and have had nothing but success and enjoyment. A couple highlights being a sorcerous on an assassinate mission and a dwarf unit with a single unstoppable assault hit that just wouldn't quit(dwarf player called my BG broken!)
Now, there are some things to keep in mind:
Shield of ptra is the wrong direction. You are planning to get hit in combat with your BG. 1. Your BG should have charged, so he won't benefit. 2. Who would you attack, the prince or the BG who just unstoppable assaulted the snot out of your unit(hopefully).
Which brings us to another point. A bad unstoppable assault can be a disaster. Be aware you can and likely will lose your giant. Be prepared to back him up, he will need it.
They are correct that your list won't be a super death dealing power house, but it could be fun.
And phoenix is definately right about proxy.
Last edited by CrimsonWraith; October 28th, 2009 at 19:57.
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Thousand Sons- 1850 ~~~~~Night Goblins- 900
Yup, shield of Ptra is a bad idea. In addition to the above, the main problem is that it actually requires you to make an (armour) save... Not the most reliable thing in a TK list lol.
One of the lists I run is my 'Quick list' where everything is a fast threat, very little magic, no static combat res, all strike power and maneuverability.
I run two Boner Giants in the list simply because of their speed and flexibility of movement as a monster, but for the most part, they usually don't pull their weight. The last game I played using the quick list, I did manage to deal 15 wounds on the charge with one, but they were fighting skeletons, which are only WS2.
The list is as follows:
Tomb King, Chariot, Flail of Skulls, Golden Ankra, Shield, Light Armor
Tomb Prince, Chariot, Flail, Shield, Vambraces of the Sun, Armor of the Ages
Tomb Prince, Chariot, Flail, Shield, Light Armor, Chariot of Fire, Talisman of Protection
Liche Priest, Scroll, Cloak of the Dunes
4 Ushabit (slowest unit in the list, but they're just too damn boss!)
Last edited by MobiusPrime; October 29th, 2009 at 01:51.