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This is the start of a new series, that will hopefully bring new ideas and tactics to the forums. Each week, a new topic will be posted up about a different unit in the army book. This gives you your chance to discuss the unit to its fullest. So, please leave your comment!
This week's topic is - Tomb King
What options do you use with him? Magic items? Is he better mounted on foot or in a chariot? How much better than a prince is he?
If at a 2k game, or sometimes (3k)
If i only have one king, it will always be a King with DoE and collar of shapesh. I cant think of ever using anything, that combo just annihilates things for me.
The only problem with it, is just the quasi ward save is your only Armour, and you still lose wounds no matter what, and that they count for combat resolution kinda bites.
If i have a second king, he will usually have Flail of skulls, and Crown of kings. I stick him in a chariot unit, to get the best benefit of the Crown of Kings.
Comparing mounted VS not mounted. I love mounted Kings so much more then on foot. (it just looks awesome)
But Since the DoE cant be taken while mounted, i usually have a on foot king.
As For Prince vs King?
I like the cheapness of the prince
But i find the king superior, because of the Extra wound, WS, and Str.
The Str is important, as it will be the only way (other then catapults) to get Str 7
The DoE is so good that it's almost impossible to see me never taking it. I much prefer my TK with the Cloak though over the Collar. Collar always goes to my casket priest so I really don't have to worry about protecting that huge target. The 6" range on the king means he needs to fly for real support magic way more than the priests ever will. I also find when my king is flying and using clutch support magic, my enemy really blows through dispel dice. Most people just have his spells for gibberish early turns of the game.
Plus it turns him into a cruise missile. Fly close then 2 shots at the charge that turn not including supporting priests. Early game support then end game cruise missile is why I always bring a TK with that setup.
Never liked a King on chariot myself
Last edited by Rahsk; March 2nd, 2010 at 21:06.
Kings on chariots are viable. Try chariot, light armour, blade of setep, enchanted shield, collar of shapesh, vambrances of the sun.
Problem with ones on foot is mobility. M4 means you'll really struggle against gunlines and defensive armies. Makes it easy for enemies to avoid the obvious choice of destroyer of eternities. DoE + CoS, probably still the best king, but not the only option. Adding the cloak is an idea, but leaving him in the open if he doesn't magically charge is recipe for quick death. Also, even if he does charge any combat res is going to crumble him to dust. A useful light unit and warmachine hunter, but his role is limited an his charge is still only 8.
You're right, I edited my post to not sound like an ass, thank you. Oh and I in no way expect him to be useful against big blocks, nor would I ever use him like that early game.
I find this strategy to be quite viable later game though after I've (hopefully) squashed some opponents dispel dice away and can then support my own units in combat (whichever one needs it) or take on things like chariots or monsters that have lagged behind due to breaking then rallying.
Last edited by Rahsk; March 2nd, 2010 at 21:17.
My king is mounted, my prince on foot! (Of course, it's not my fault if my opponents see the prince and think it's a king with DoE...) My king has the spear, the eye, and that +1W armor...his unit of chariots has excellent survivability and hits quite hard, too. Not quite as offensive as DoE+cloak, but it has the advantage of US and fluff. Can't imagine a nehekeran king not being mounted....
My prince is in my unit of 20 TG with FC. He has nothing but a +1S sword. He keeps enemy characters who would fear the DoE from venturing near (assuming a 20" charge out of the unit with the cloak and DoE) until at least mid-game, and when it comes to combat, he's slightly worse than a king against enemy core units, including core heavy cav. Anything a tooled prince can handle, the tomb blades make a mockery of, so why bother tooling him too heavilly?
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