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Hello. I've been posting for awhile here, and I've been a member of many other forums such as Druchii.net and Warvault and even ran my own (Chromiates Wargaming Forums, which has become CWF Game Discussions...we do podcasts which has been talked about on Tau Online and iTunes and Warvault).
For awhile I thought of doing Tomb Kings, even before their new book, but spent the time updating my Chaos and some 40k. Then I went for Vampire Counts and have a 1k Army of Sylvania list. I got some great advice on VC: AoS in the VC board here. I know I can get some great advice for TK too!
I want to start Tomb Kings but don't know what size list to do.
I know with AoS, for example, that they're strong at 1k or less. Or, they're strong at 2k and up. But, if you do say 1,500 you're retarding yourself.
Is this true of TK too? Or, is 1,500 decent? I thought of doing 1k or 1,500. I don't want to go too big just yet. I like to grow my armies in blocks. I did that with my Chaos, Beastmen, Empire, and AoS. I'd like to do that with TK too.
So, what are your thoughts?
I hope to have an army list, for the army list board, to share with everyone soon for some help. But, this is a starting point for me.
Tomb Kings are sort of similar, but generally even in games 1k or under they're not as effective. It take a lot to get them to work in small games.
They are better as game size gets larger, 2k and up they start shining. I haven't tried them at 1.5k, so don't know from personal experience, I think I wrote a fair decent list for them a while ago though.
Aim for 2k and you should be ok. If you can get 3k battles going (my gaming group does them a lot) you're laughing. My TK are very powerful at that level.
For starting out, don't aim for anything less than 1k unless you use warband rules, because they really aren't viable there.
TK should be sweet in 7th ed, not effected by nasty miscasts at all. Nor do we have to worry about powerdice. Our magic will begin to really dominate when people realise their magic isn't as reliable/worth taking, so they take less mages and have less resistance. For TK, it definitely plays a supporting roll for the army very effectively, don't expect to be throwing around things like Gaze of Nagash. Though, I guess with a 1k AoS list, you don't really do any of that anyway. The magic phase is fantastic, pretty much if you want a certain spell to work there is very little your opponent can do about it with the amount of times you can try to cast it.
So, they're not an army to use an inremental building up plan with?
For example, I make a 1k list and get all that together. I play it and if I like how things go I grow it to 1,500pts. Repeat process. Grow it to 2k, usually stop here, and if everything goes nicely I'll play it at 2k for ages. That's what I did with my AoS list as you guys know.
I'm not certain about having the financial means for another 2k army after the expenditures I've done on Space Marines, Tau, AoS, Chaos, Beastmen, and Empire (still need to expend some more on Tau, Empire, AoS, and Beastmen).
Should I stay away from TK then? Or, give it a go? I wouldn't do less than 1k to start and if viable would probably stop at 1,500 so that I could finish off my Empire (another 1,500 army).
Well tha good thing about TK IMO is that so many of their units are great, both models and in rules. There are heaps of units that I automatically put in every list regardless of the rest of the list, because they're great. So you'd be really limiting yourself if you stuck to 1k, since TK have to have 2 characters, which is several hundred points already... And, of course, the great chariot units become core once you get a King.
Lots of people say TK are pretty bad in 1k or under, my 1k list managed ok though.. Massacred an empire army, I think the army just plays extremely differently at 1k than at 2k. A 1k TK army isn't a small 2k army, it is a different force altogether.
If you weren't going to aim for 2k at least, I think you would get bored of the small battles after not too long.. TK really do shine and are very fun to play in larger armes, plus the models looks sweet on the battlefield.