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October 27th, 2009, 03:39
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| Hive Tyrant  Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Age: 26
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Rep Power: 15    |  Tyranid Apocalypse List help needed. Can anyone give me the breakdown of which formations I should bring, what to use and all that. I'm able to field just about every formation so if someone can break down the pros and cons of them i'd appreciate that as well. I also have a question bout the Genestealer Infestation formation, it seems that the whole formation gains the Secret Deployment special rule that the Lictor has. So does this mean the whole formation may also assault on the turn it arrives? Or is the Lictor the only one allowed to assault? I ask because the lictor is given the ability to assault after deep striking within the secret deployment rule. However it specifically says the Lictor (but this is because Lictors are the ONLY units with this special rule in the codex) so is the ability to assault after deep striking something given by having secret deployment itself ? Or is this a lictor only rule?
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October 27th, 2009, 05:24
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Well i sat down with army builder to make a couple builds of everything I could squeeze in with what I own and this is what i came up with: Unlimited Pts - Tyranids Roster - Apocalypse [NOTE: There are no individual point costs noted] Formation: Endless Swarm (195#, 2904 Pts) 1 Endless Swarm @ 2904 Pts Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood 25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons 25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons 25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons 22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists 22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists 22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists 22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists 32 Gaunt Brood @ [448] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Devourer Formation: Subterranean Swarm (7#, 640 Pts) 1 Subterranean Swarm @ 640 Pts 1 Trygon (IA AP) @ [300] Pts 2 x Scything Talons; Bio-eletric Field 3 Ravener @ [120] Pts Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1) 3 Ravener @ [120] Pts Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1) Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (6#, 1785 Pts) 1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1785 Pts Barbed Hierodule 1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2) 1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2) 1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2) 1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon 1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon 1 Barbed Hierodule @ [700] Pts Hierodule Bio-cannon (x2); Scything Talons (x2) Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (5#, 1290 Pts) 1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1290 Pts 1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1) 1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1) 1 Carnifex @ [200] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Mace; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x2) 1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon 1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon Formation: Kraken Tendril Swarm (132#, 1570 Pts) 1 Kraken Tendril Swarm @ 1570 Pts Gargoyles; Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood; Warriors; Strategic Redeployment 10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts Bio-plasma; Fleshborer 20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts Fleshborer 20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts Fleshborer 20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts Fleshborer 5 Warriors @ [315] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature 1 Warriors @ [55] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature 10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts Bio-plasma; Fleshborer 20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts Fleshborer 20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts Fleshborer 5 Warriors @ [315] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature 1 Warriors @ [55] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature Formation: Eye of the Hive (21#, 1314 Pts) 1 Eye of the Hive @ 1314 Pts 6 Warriors @ [388] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature 1 Warriors @ [64] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature 6 Warriors @ [388] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature 1 Warriors @ [64] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature 6 Warriors @ [388] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature 1 Warriors @ [64] Pts Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature Formation: Hive Mind Brood (10#, 725 Pts) 1 Hive Mind Brood @ 725 Pts Tyrant Guard; Zoanthrope; Zoanthrope 1 Hive Tyrant @ [170] Pts Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature; The Horror; The Shadow in the Warp 1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts Rending Claws; Scything Talons 1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts Rending Claws; Scything Talons 1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts Rending Claws; Scything Talons 1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field 1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field 1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field 1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts Lash Whips; Rending Claws 1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field 1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field Formation: Genestealer Infestation (48#, 1695 Pts) 1 Genestealer Infestation @ 1695 Pts 1 Broodlord @ [341] Pts Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons; Synapse Creature 8 Genestealers @ [248] Pts Acid Maw; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons 12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws 12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws 12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws 1 Lictor @ [80] Pts Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons 1 Lictor @ [80] Pts Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons 1 Lictor @ [80] Pts Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons Total Roster Cost: 11923 Created with Army Builder Copyright (c) 1997-2006 Lone Wolf Development, Inc. 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October 27th, 2009, 10:25
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DUDE, ive just got one thing for you... SPAM those genestealers!!! genestealer infestation is possible too good for anything under 20,000 points. i mean like...too good.
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October 27th, 2009, 15:10
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| Hive Fleet Panzerkampf  Join Date: May 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 20
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I've personally always been a fan of mycetic assault storm. DSing 'fexes? Sweet. Kraken Tendril Swarm can also be really brutal. Any option that can allow you to simply move part of your army somewhere behind your opponent is stupid good in Apoc games. Finally I like one you don't have up there : shieldwall. Give a group of HT, and TG 2+/FNP, is pretty decent for the points that go into it. Far as I know RAW you cannot assault with those units the turn they arrive, but honestly this is Apoc. Talk it over with your group, you can always make a case for it from a RAI perspective, and ridiculous crap lake that is the bread and butter of apocalypse so I say go for it. |
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October 28th, 2009, 02:18
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Sorry, semi-new here. Where can I find the rules for the following apoc. formations? Kraken Tendril Swarm Eye of the Hive Genestealer Infestation shieldwall Any help would be appreciated (repped) |
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October 28th, 2009, 04:41
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Those are all found in the semi-new book "Apocalypse: Reload" that came out around a year ago I believe. Also included the only CD formations, as well as a number of special options that depended on your army.
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