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a bit of an odd fish · January 16th, 2005, 13:08

for the hive tyrant isn't extended carapace an warp field the same thing only with a massive points difference? i can't get my head around it.

TzarNikolai · January 16th, 2005, 13:26

warpfield is really designed to give zoanthropes a 2+ save. i don't think its supposed to be taken on tyrants (even if it is an option)

or, if a tournament doesn't allow mutable species (it happens) you can still give your tyrant a 2+ save

kingkrispy · January 16th, 2005, 13:32

Warp Field is a waste of points when you have extended carapace. However, your tyrant should ALWAYS have extended carapace. That thing has saved my tyrant MANY times.

Monsieur Cartier · January 16th, 2005, 22:57

The difference is you can give warp filed to a non-mutated tyrant (ie one chosen from the main list). It also counts as a psychic power, whereas extended carapace does not. Not that it makes much difference. Extended carapace is a much better option. Try giving mutated tyrants devourers. If they're mutated to S6 then thats 6 S5 AP4 shots. Possibly at BS4. S6 shots if the tyrant has exceptional size. Mad. I find couple of tyrant guard afford much better protection in games >1250pts.

.Hack//HiveFleetEdimadra.exe · January 17th, 2005, 02:51

Eather way a laz cannon can kill with no save... i say us nids need an invulnerable...

Kaela_Mensha_Khaine · January 17th, 2005, 11:19

The only reason i can find for giving warp field to a Hive Tyrant is that, as a multaple genus tyrant, it can then take all the other biomorphs, as it has a limit on the amount of biomorph enhancements, and taking extended carapiece counts towards this limit, so you cannot use one of the other biomorphs (e.g. Toxin sacs). Whereas with Warp Field you can get a 2+ save and have all the other biomorph enhancements...

Otherwise both are exactly the same, but warp field is, bizarely, much more exspensive. Nut a Tyrant is definatly allowed to use Warp field. :shifty:
(or both if you wanna waste points :huh: )

Uzi-99 · January 17th, 2005, 20:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaela_Mensha_Khaine@Jan 17 2005, 12:19
The only reason i can find for giving warp field to a Hive Tyrant is that, as a multaple genus tyrant, it can then take all the other biomorphs,

--- The problem is, You really can't fill the Biomorphs so that You couldn't take ExtCar... Unless You're for some reason convinced that taking a Winged Tyrant with FlsHks is a necessity! :lol:

Thus currently there's no reason to take WField on a Mutable Genus Tyrant.

January 16th, 2005, 13:08	#1 (permalink)
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January 16th, 2005, 13:32	#3 (permalink)
kingkrispy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hell! Posts: 261 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 61	Warp Field is a waste of points when you have extended carapace. However, your tyrant should ALWAYS have extended carapace. That thing has saved my tyrant MANY times. __________________ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> They will shoot you and cut you up and step on the pieces and burn them and assemble the ashes and shoot them again and grind them into sand and scatter the sand into the sea and boil the sea away and gather the hardened remains and melt them into a rock and shoot the rock and burn what's left and launch the remains into the sun and... </div> or <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The most powerful gun in the galaxy won't help if your opponent if bashing your brains out with a rock</div>

January 16th, 2005, 22:57	#4 (permalink)
Monsieur Cartier LO Zealot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La France!! (almost) Age: 21 Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 77	The difference is you can give warp filed to a non-mutated tyrant (ie one chosen from the main list). It also counts as a psychic power, whereas extended carapace does not. Not that it makes much difference. Extended carapace is a much better option. Try giving mutated tyrants devourers. If they're mutated to S6 then thats 6 S5 AP4 shots. Possibly at BS4. S6 shots if the tyrant has exceptional size. Mad. I find couple of tyrant guard afford much better protection in games >1250pts. __________________ --Monsieur "Argue for your limitations and, sure enough, they're yours" -Zen proverb Have you been touched? Pirate's Haven USE TEH REP BUTTON

January 17th, 2005, 02:51	#5 (permalink)
.Hack//HiveFleetEdimadra.exe Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: CANADA BABY!!!! WOOHOO!!! Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 61	Eather way a laz cannon can kill with no save... i say us nids need an invulnerable... __________________ "Come children let us consume." Mother said. "May we grow ever more and destroy all that hinder us!" And all her children went out to do her bidding --Children of Hive Fleet Edimadra

January 17th, 2005, 11:19	#6 (permalink)
Kaela_Mensha_Khaine Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sevenoaks, England Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 61	The only reason i can find for giving warp field to a Hive Tyrant is that, as a multaple genus tyrant, it can then take all the other biomorphs, as it has a limit on the amount of biomorph enhancements, and taking extended carapiece counts towards this limit, so you cannot use one of the other biomorphs (e.g. Toxin sacs). Whereas with Warp Field you can get a 2+ save and have all the other biomorph enhancements... Otherwise both are exactly the same, but warp field is, bizarely, much more exspensive. Nut a Tyrant is definatly allowed to use Warp field. :shifty: (or both if you wanna waste points :huh: ) __________________ Tolerance is Ignorance <a href='http://www.freewebs.com/knoblarmaster/' target='_blank'>Knoblars rule</a>

January 16th, 2005, 13:26	#2 (permalink)
TzarNikolai Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 842 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	warpfield is really designed to give zoanthropes a 2+ save. i don't think its supposed to be taken on tyrants (even if it is an option) or, if a tournament doesn't allow mutable species (it happens) you can still give your tyrant a 2+ save

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