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RedOne · December 19th, 2005, 18:57

What is the point of warp field? for 5 less points you get EC, sure their is the bad INV save, but I hardly see how that balances out. Maybe i'm missing something?

Ostsol · December 19th, 2005, 19:02

Flying Tyrants can't take Extended Carapace, so the only way for them to have a 2+ save is to take Warp Field.

Marvus · December 20th, 2005, 00:23

As Ostsol said, flying tyrants can't take EC. The only place i would take Warp field for my tyrant would be one that's flying, which leaves the psychic slot open for the walking tyrant to take something more offensive.

tojo · December 20th, 2005, 01:06

I wouldn't ever take it. just a prsonal opinion, it isn't worth its points seeing as most stuff that is attacking you and has ANY chance of getting through is already AP2 or ignores armor saves.

Ostsol · December 20th, 2005, 01:17

True, but the Tyrant is still vulnerable to small-arms fire, which a 2+ save does provide some additional protection against. Also, the 2+ save minimizes the number of heavy weapons that can automatically penetrate the Tyrant's armour. Lascannons and Plasma might cut right through it, but the much cheaper Missile Launcher is stopped. IIRC, Orks have one AP2 weapon, making it very difficult for them to deal with Tyranid monsters in shooting. Against Dark Eldar I only forgoe the 2+ save on my Carnifex, whose toughness I raise to seven instead.

insomnia · December 20th, 2005, 07:26

a yes but doesnt the warp-feild give a 6+ or 5+ invulnerable save now? im sure i read that sumwhere (dont hve my codex wif me) so not only does it provide protection againset small arms fire it also allows you the chace - abit a slim one but still a chance - to save versus LC and the like.

Ostsol · December 20th, 2005, 08:17

Yeah, it also has that 6+ invulnerable save. Such a save shouldn't be counted on, though; it's really more of a bonus. It's alot of fun to see such saves made, though.

Pectar · December 21st, 2005, 06:10

I have made my fair share of 6+ invulnerables on my tyrant, and always Immediately after I'm told not to bother with it since the chances are so slim.

insomnia · December 21st, 2005, 09:01

Hey its still a chance to keep a wound from a LC and dats wat counts!

Marvus · December 21st, 2005, 09:46

If you think about it, a 1 in 6 chance isnt that bad compared to some other things in the wolrd. I've rolled plenty of one's for teminators and plenty of rending 6's as well.

December 19th, 2005, 18:57	#1 (permalink)
RedOne Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 28 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 50	Warp Field? <a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> What is the point of warp field? for 5 less points you get EC, sure their is the bad INV save, but I hardly see how that balances out. Maybe i'm missing something?

December 19th, 2005, 19:02	#2 (permalink)
Ostsol LO Zealot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Flying Tyrants can't take Extended Carapace, so the only way for them to have a 2+ save is to take Warp Field. __________________ Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold? Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives. --Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates" -Ostsol

December 20th, 2005, 00:23	#3 (permalink)
Marvus Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Age: 20 Posts: 670 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 53	As Ostsol said, flying tyrants can't take EC. The only place i would take Warp field for my tyrant would be one that's flying, which leaves the psychic slot open for the walking tyrant to take something more offensive. __________________

December 20th, 2005, 01:17	#5 (permalink)
Ostsol LO Zealot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	True, but the Tyrant is still vulnerable to small-arms fire, which a 2+ save does provide some additional protection against. Also, the 2+ save minimizes the number of heavy weapons that can automatically penetrate the Tyrant's armour. Lascannons and Plasma might cut right through it, but the much cheaper Missile Launcher is stopped. IIRC, Orks have one AP2 weapon, making it very difficult for them to deal with Tyranid monsters in shooting. Against Dark Eldar I only forgoe the 2+ save on my Carnifex, whose toughness I raise to seven instead. __________________ Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold? Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives. --Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates" -Ostsol

December 20th, 2005, 08:17	#7 (permalink)
Ostsol LO Zealot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Age: 29 Posts: 1,907 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Yeah, it also has that 6+ invulnerable save. Such a save shouldn't be counted on, though; it's really more of a bonus. It's alot of fun to see such saves made, though. __________________ Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold? Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives. --Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates" -Ostsol

December 20th, 2005, 01:06	#4 (permalink)
tojo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 353 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 52	I wouldn't ever take it. just a prsonal opinion, it isn't worth its points seeing as most stuff that is attacking you and has ANY chance of getting through is already AP2 or ignores armor saves.

December 20th, 2005, 07:26	#6 (permalink)
insomnia Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	a yes but doesnt the warp-feild give a 6+ or 5+ invulnerable save now? im sure i read that sumwhere (dont hve my codex wif me) so not only does it provide protection againset small arms fire it also allows you the chace - abit a slim one but still a chance - to save versus LC and the like.

December 21st, 2005, 06:10	#8 (permalink)
Pectar Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 23 Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 53	I have made my fair share of 6+ invulnerables on my tyrant, and always Immediately after I'm told not to bother with it since the chances are so slim. __________________ From the unspeakable cold of the intergalactic void, an immeasurable alien intelligence moves ever closer. Barren husks of countless star systems lie in its wake. The first tendrils of the Great Devourer, a single entity stretching over light years of space and controlled by the immortal Hive Mind, have probed our galaxy and found it rich in prey. It has begun to feed.

December 21st, 2005, 09:01	#9 (permalink)
insomnia Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Hey its still a chance to keep a wound from a LC and dats wat counts!

December 21st, 2005, 09:46	#10 (permalink)
Marvus Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Age: 20 Posts: 670 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 53	If you think about it, a 1 in 6 chance isnt that bad compared to some other things in the wolrd. I've rolled plenty of one's for teminators and plenty of rending 6's as well. __________________

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