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    1000pts New to VC

    Hey all,

    This is a list i came up with to go against TK, SK and Bretts.

    Heroes

    Konrad Von Carstein

    Vampire
    The Flayed Hauberk
    Sceptre de Noirot
    Lord of the Dead
    Dark Acolyte

    Core

    15 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    15 Skeleton Warriors
    Spears
    Champion
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    5 Dire Wolves

    Corpse Cart
    Unholy Lodestone


    Rare

    Varghulf

    Total – 950 pts


    Lots of questions since im new (forgive me)
    - 50 pts... what to add?
    - Too much on the Vampire hero? I plan to summon zombies and replenish lost skellies with him while Konrad spearheads the attack.
    - Anything i should drop/add for fighting those armies i'm planning on facing?
    - General comments?

    Thank you all in advance!

    EDIT

    LIST 2

    how is this Army list in comparison?
    Heroes

    Vampire
    The Flayed Hauberk
    Tomb Blade
    Lord of the Dead
    Dark Acolyte

    Vampire
    The Flayed Hauberk
    Tomb Blade
    Lord of the Dead
    Dark Acolyte

    These 2 vampires join the skeleton blocks and just res through BOTH combat (Tomb Blade) and magic phases (Invocation + Corpse cart boost).

    Core

    15 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    15 Skeleton Warriors
    Spears
    Champion
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    5 Dire Wolves

    Corpse Cart
    Unholy Lodestone

    Rare

    Varghulf

    Total – 1000 pts
    6 powerdice
    4 dispel dice

    think it will do better ?

    Last edited by STang; February 27th, 2008 at 09:07.

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    First off, your heroes can't have the same magic items. I like units of 20 or 25 for skeletons, so in your first list bump up their numbers. I have yet to play a game under the new rules, but your list looks very small. I am not sure how worthwhile it would be to have a Vargulf in such a small list.

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    Definatly bump up the numbers on your skeleton units- i cant speak for TK or Skaven, but if a unit of 15 skellies get charged by a large lance of bret knights, or grail knights (for example) they will lose a lot of wounds on the charge, and due to the way undead deal with CR you could be saying goodbye to the unit, and your vampire!

    id lose the varghulf and go for some more core units- skellies or ghouls or something along those lines
    PLAN CLAN MAN!!

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    ok so ill bump up the skeletons to 20 and remove the spears from one block.

    How about having only 1 vampire and 2 necromancers ? (one with sceptre de noirot, another with dispel scroll and an extra dice to dispel pool)

    any other comments and help before i post a revamped (pun) list?
    Last edited by STang; February 28th, 2008 at 08:38.

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    Here is the reworked list -

    Heroes (380)

    Vampire
    Walach’s Bloody Hauberk
    Lord of the Dead
    Dark Acolyte

    Necromancer
    The Book of Arkhan

    Necromancer
    Dispel Scroll


    Core (500)

    20 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Standard Bearer



    20 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Musician
    Standard Bearer

    5 Dire Wolves

    Corpse Cart
    Unholy Lodestone

    Special (150)

    10 Grave Guard
    Seneschal
    Standard Bearer


    Power Dice – 6
    Dispel Dice – 5
    Bound Spells - 2


    Think its better now guys?

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    Looks pretty good, I would try it out. I might switch out the regular GG for great weapons if they ar eonly a unit of 10, that s6 hitting power could allow you to take out units you might not normally be able to. On a similar note a banner on such a small unit would just be giving your opponent 100 VPs as they steal it when your unit dies. It might be a tough call, try it out, but no banner with GWs could be better.

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    Reworked it again!

    Heroes (375)

    Vampire
    Walach’s Bloody Hauberk
    Lord of the Dead
    Dark Acolyte

    Necromancer
    The Book of Arkhan

    Necromancer
    Rod of Flaming Death


    Core (492)

    20 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Standard Bearer

    20 Skeleton Warriors
    Champion
    Standard Bearer

    5 Dire Wolves

    Corpse Cart
    Unholy Lodestone

    Special (130)

    9 Grave Guard
    Great Weapons.
    Seneschal
    Standard Bearer


    Power Dice – 6
    Dispel Dice – 5
    Bound Spells - 3
    Total 997


    The vampire joins the GG unit (hence my cut to 9), helping combat resolution to the small unit with his attacks.
    The necro with the book of arkhan rides the corpse cart where he can cast the bound spell should the ASf of the corpse cart gets negated by my opponent.
    The other necro flails around, causing panic checks with his spell. (should help with skaven)
    if i lose the great weapons, i can add another GG with my surplus of 3 pts. or place the standard back which shouldnt be lost with my lord in it now (thoughts?)

    NOW what do you guys think? Im very grateful with everyones help narrowing and tightening the list up.

    look forward to your replies.
    Last edited by STang; March 2nd, 2008 at 01:52.

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    Couple of quick ideas and additions to my plan -

    The necro on a corpsecart will join a block of skeletons.

    Also on to the skeletons - perhaps i should take them down to 15 as i will be raising them above the starting unit size?

    Tell me what you think in addition to my previously listed ideas above!

    thanks guys!

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