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Ok so here's a 2k list that the point of it is a zombie dragon:
vampire lord+level+zombie dragon+flayed hauberk+blood drinker+vristbands of the black gold+infinite hatred+red fury+ walking death=725p.
vampire+dark acolyte+avatar of death+black periapt +book of arkhan=200p.
vampire+dark acolyte+avatar of death+2x dispel scroll=200p.
20x skeletons+f.command +banner of the death legion=205p.
19x skeletons+f.command +war banner=197p.
Also got a question.How does blood drinker work if the vampire does 2 wounds will the vampire regenerate 2 or just 1 because of the vampire special rule?
Last edited by egzius; May 3rd, 2008 at 08:06.
I'd also suggest giving him the Dread Lance instead of the Blood Drinker. You'll have to drop the hauberk to do it, though, as you'll run out of item points. If you do, you can drop the infinite hatred as you'll auto-hit.
Yeah sry didn't see that fixed.... And about the dreadlance i don't know cause in earlier games blood drinker did wonders...the dragon was reduced to 1 wound and when i charged he got back to full....And the hauberk is also good...
The only thing you have to remember about the blooddrinker is that you can only restore 1 wound back now under the new rules (sorry already mentioned)
A comparable (power & equipment) list I'm running for a vampire lord on zombie dragon is:
Vampire + level + Balefire Spike + Flayed Hauberk + Book of Arkhan + Wristbands + Red Fury + Infinite Hatred
You get a good caster, a lance (Str 7 on charge), 2+ armor, bound item (great for a flyer), ward save on missiles, can cause extra wounds, plus rerolls.
I broke it down statistically (on the charge) - against a WS6 or lower enemy, you should have:
Vampire Lord - 3 hit, with a 2/3 chance to hit with the 4th (After reroll). Str7 on charge - you should wound 3 with a 1/3 chance for a 4th wound. Add the odds again for your additional 3 extra attacks - 2 more hits with a 2/3 chance to hit. From your VC, you should be looking at a total of 5-6 wounds from him.
Zombie Dragon - 3 hit, with an additional hit from the 4th (after reroll). Str6 - should still be wounding on 2s - same as VL.
So with laws of probability - you should be causing 5-6 wounds at -4 (flaming) plus 3-4 wounds at -3 for a total of 8-10 wounds.
Add in the fact that everybody (exception some Lord characters) are going to basically need 5s just to hit you - great combo!
Why only 1 wound? Also the wounds can be brought back to the zombie dragon... And about the lance will the caster get charge bonus?(+2str)
Blood Drinker works like ION - you can only give 1 wound to a model (for multiple wound folks). Yes the dreadlance gives +2 str - only 2 lances available for VC riding a dragon as you have to ride a nightmare with the dreadknight ability.
Only 1 wound, right. But it's one wound back per wound caused... so if you cause 2 wounds, you regain 2 wounds.
Ok I modified the list a bit...
Vampire lord+level+red fury+dark acolyte+balefire spike+the flayed hauberk+wristbands of the black gold+book of arkhan=710p.(dropped infinite hatred cause i gonna try using the book on myself if needed or just cast the spell if i roll it)
Vampire+dark acolyte+avatar of death+2x dispel scroll=200p.
vampire+black periapt+avatar of death+dispel scroll+dark acolyte=200p.
21x skeletons+f.command+war banner=213p.
20x skeletons+f.command+banner of the dead legion=205p.
Looks good - I would drop the magic banners on those two skeleton units to get my ghoul numbers up (since you don't have any LoD or SumG). Otherwise the zombie dragon and vargulfs will make it to the enemy real quick - eleminates your core units from getting shot up so much getting into combat.
I've also been finding alot of success with forbidden lore lately (lets you tailor your spell choice to the enemy army your playing), but thats me. I take lore of fire or beasts instead of avatar of death (makes your vampire a better melee fighter) if thats what your going for.
I think the ghouls are fine... If i'm playing for shooters my zombie dragon will make sure that they don't get shot out in 1st turn...About the avatar of death: i use it for the armour cause ussually in cc vampires get a lot of s3 wounds...Also if i take forbidden lore i can't take the dark acolyte, which makes my vampires go down in magic...