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Red fury and dread lance, a combo that costs over a hundred points.
Just need to check that:
If you have a dreadlance then you're red fury attacks (an attack for each unsaved wound) will hit automatically as well? on the charge that is.
What are you thoughts? is this correct? if it is then a vampire lord should be able to kill an character on the charge and make sure the unit he is in wins combat.
Actually addressed this topic before on another thread but yes - dreadlance hits autohit, as well as your additional red fury ones as well. In addition, you benefit from the dreadlance after the charge as well- you simply don't get the plus 2 strength benefit. Lances can be used in follow on rounds of close combat - something about everyone always assumes you can't after the charge.
So - you'll never miss with the dreadlance in any round of combat and gain the red fury benefits as well.
Always auto-hit, thats ridiculous . I guess it must be right though.
Oh its definately nasty, but for that many points, several other armies (Bretonnia, Chaos, etc) that have comparable autohit weapons. I'm testing out a zombie dragon & vampire lord combo with a similar build - hopefully it'll work out great.
I'll try the combo out for the first time in a series of 6000 point games tomorrow night. I'll probably post what happens, not as far as a battle report though.
Dunno about Chaos, but Brets have nothing that comes close to Red Fury + Dread Lance combo. Of course, you pay for the ability with the Vamp's.
I've used the combo on a vamp lord on a zombie dragon in 3,500 point games, adding in wristbands of black gold to give the lord some survivability against an errant cannon ball. It worked great when he charged just about anything. Only time it didn't was when he counter charged a chaos unit and we went by initiative.... and oops, I was touching an I8 chaos lord that punked my dragon with the sword of hellfire (d6+1 wounds and rolled a 6 - dead dragon).
I'd avoid anything with a decent ward save, but *almost* anything else is fair game, even from the front. Especially if you take Walking Death for the extra insurance +1 combat res.
i took a similar build and he wrecked in combat but the dragon was shot out from under him in one of my games so there went my dreadlance with it =(
Bretonnians have a lance which autohits for them as long as they have the blessing of the lady. Still nothing compared to VC, but autohitting weapons are COOL.
Yeah I'm worried about the dragon getting shot out, but combining a 20 inch move with Vanhels - first turn charge if I'm lucky or setting up a nice flank shot or something. In my games I'm running also 2 units of 5 wraiths and a Vargulf, so they have to make some important decisions on what to shoot.
Note though - even if your mount is shot out - you can continue to use the lance in close combat. Nothing specifies that you can't use a lance on foot - I'm sure all the Monty Python fans will laugh but it is still allowed.
perhaps try adding hunter in the dark with supernatural horror and then red fury + lance, and add hauberkand talisman of the lycni for a measure of protection and speed .U can scout and hit them in the rear/flank and hopefully break your unit of choice with the combo of extreme wounds and terror
IIRC, hunter in the dark is on foot only, right? No bonus to strength with dreadlance unless mounted... and that's where the real power is. Auto-hitting at Str 7.
And true enough, Brets have an auto-hit lance, but their "red fury"-esque ability doesn't work with magical lances. And Bret characters strength isn't quite that of a vampire, either.