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Just another topic im going to wine and moan, sry plp im just getting frustrated with some of the new choises and options day by day.
So far the only available ward is the crown(the bloody hauberk is a joke for 45pts if on foot), which in return makes the vamp stupid...why???Ok it was in the last book as well but ffs make 45pts like all the other armies (or most of them) without the stupid rule.
Last book...had ring for 5+ward, the ultimate carstein ring for regen and 4+ward, strigoi had 5+ward (or 6 if hero), lahmias could take for 30pts 5+ward...
I mean ok not all vamps had an option but see my point?Why on earth there is no option and more specific a vamp power for 30pts to give 5+ward or for 15pts a 6+ward?
Is it too much?is it overpowered?is it a mistake?or is it bacause now we take ward and regen from cramble?
Well there is a 15 point 6+ item, the talisman of protection. Not many of the new armies have reliable ward saves any more for some reason.
Against ld 10, the chances of going stupid are slim. Of course it will happen sooner or later, but it doesn't matter once you're in combat. I still use it because the risks are minimal. Trundling forward at half speed for one movement phase isn't much, especially with Danse Macarbre at your disposal.
Crown of the damned 4+. Cheap points but causes stupidity, which isn't too bad as you're only failing on a 11 or more. The really bad thing is that its easy to forgot. I'm not sure but i'm guessing vampires have more killing power now? using dread lance and red fury thats up to 8 kills providing you don't roll 1's.
This did seem kind of odd to me as well. In the last edition, we seemed to have a whole host of items to give a different variety an level of Ward Saves. I really liked the fact the Lahmia Vampires could get a ward save through the use of a bloodline power. And now that, along with a lot of the items, have gone.
I mean, I don't mind the crown. As pointed out, there's only a slim chance of stupidity. But you think a centuries-old Vampire would be powerful enough to exert their will over practically anything, including whatever the curse or the trapped entity that is trying to make them stupid.
Meh, I'll still probably use it, though.
VC complaining about a lack of Ward Saves? You have better (newer) magic ite lists than most. Try kitting out more that 1 TK Character with a Ward.
im thinking the lack of ward saves might have something to do with the change to the loosing combat rule. Before we lost combat we just had to take the wounds. now we can take our ward and regen saves. Defenately good when you take the regen banner in a unit of grave guard or put a ward save( even one that causes stupid) on your lord on a dragon or horror.
It may be expensive but putting your lord in a unit with drakenhoff banner will give him regeneration which is almost as good as a 4+ ward plus another character gets it and the unit so it shares the love ... sort of.
BEN DIESEL FTW!!!
I run the drakenhoff banner, and it's amazing. Pretty much always pays for itself... but the issue with it is that regen doesn't help against killing blow. :/ Nor flaming attacks, which the new blood thirsters will tend to have one or the other. Those things are going to be trouble.