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So I have a 500pt VC army all sorted. Got a box of grave guard, box of ghouls, 2 boxes of zombies and the really sweet winged vampire.
My question is:
What colours do you use to paint
1) Zombies (talking about the flesh obviously)
3) Vampire flesh
Your ideas please!
Also, I was hoping to have my bases look muddy/swampy...any ideas for that??? For my other armies I usually just do dirt/grass combo.
Last edited by Lemonchild; April 16th, 2009 at 12:33. Reason: Added info!
graveyard earth is a good base colour, and use muted greys mixed with felshtones for zombies (generally skin goes a bluish tinge fresh after death).
For the ghouls I would opt for maybe a more greenish tinge, and a slightly darker palette, as these guys are swarthy, filth encrusted cannibals, and should be painted as such.
Vampire flesh - depends actually on what type of imagery you are goign for. I would paint Lahmian vampire flesh almost pure white, whereas Von Carsteins could be a little more "human" looking, and use elven fleshtones
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Kithre has it straight.
You need to determine what sort of look you want. Then pick a base shade which is somewhat darker and work up from that to your desired shade. A good example would be working towards khaki from graveyard earth for instance. You can drop greens, blues and purples into the flesh shading as these all help bring out the fleshy nature of the creatures you are painting.
Thanks for the replys...
Yeah I was thinking of rancid browns for zomies...rotting greens for ghouls
and I like the pale but still a bit fleshy vampires
I take it there is no single colour that really works well and a bit of mixing is required?
For my ghouls, I'm using stonewedge green (very close to the Citadel color "Rotting Flesh") and give it two washes, one black, one raw umber (kinda similar to Citadel's "Devlin Mud.") Vampire-wise, I go pale on the skin. I really can't think of a vampire I would not paint pale. I even made my Varghulf pale. I ended up using brown fur, but I almost made him albino.
Fight my Brute:
For my ghouls I paint them with rotting flesh and then wash them with sepia. I will also paint some blood red to make it look as if they had just feasted on someone. For the zombies I just painted them with a flesh color and washed with sepia. It may not be the best but it does give them the just risen from the dead look.
My ghouls are painted red and it looks great, I think.
I have an army specific theme as they come from Araby, so I don't know if it will help you- maybe just give you ideas for your own individulism.
Zombies- built up with browns greens. My vampire is fighting against less "western" enemies, so the fresh dead are not Caucasian, and because of the drying effects of the desert sands, the dead are more leathery.
Ghouls- built up from purple to almost white. This gives them a more starved and bruised appearance. Their eyes are painted with a pale yellow, to look diseased. Their nails are the same yellowish, but tinted purple at the fingertips for bruising.
Vampire Flesh- build to white from a light blue basecoat. It just makes it look more like their showing under the light of the moon, and goes well with my silks and the blueish hue of my bases.
As for swampy bases, here's what I've done with my Chaos warriors (they use snow in some places, but the back ranks are usually just churned mud and melted snow)
Step 1- coat entire base in GS before attahing model.
Step 2- using the slightly worn eraser of a pencil, press "pits" into the GS. You want very few 'flat' spaces left, after all, armies have marched over this mud!
Step 3- use a sculpting tool or a small knife to push some of the GS out of the way to expose the black base. These deep holes will be filled with water later.
Step 4 (optional)- press the model's feet into the gs and use your sculpting tool to press some of the GS back over the top, around the edges. This will make it seem as if your model is 'sinking' into the mud.
Step 5 (optional)- using a pin, punch holes into the GS where you will later insert long 'marsh grasses'.
Step 6- paint the base in your mud color. I tended towards a brown/gray mixture. Coat the entire base thickly.
Step 7- before the paint is dry, sprinkle a very small amount of static grass onto the raised portions of the 'mud'. I used scorched grass and dead grass mixed to get two shades of 'dead' green grass.
Step 8- after the paint has dried, you have three options for water effects. You can use the actual citadel Water Effects mix, clear-drying glue, or just glue and paint. For the clear dry glue and the wet effects, I tried to mix in a little green and brown to get a muddy 'tint' to the water. Pour the desired medium into the deep pits you created, filling them only partly full to create puddles. If you use glue and paint, paint over the glue after it dries, I usually just used greens and then gloss coated it to make it look 'wet'.
Step 9 (optional)- if you poked holes in the base earlier to accept swamp grasses, go find you room-mate's toothbrush, or your mom's synthetic broom, and cut a few bristles off. Glue them into the hole, and paint them yellow/green for grasses.
I hope this helps. I know that with hundreds of models, it may take a little time. I just based my models with sand. However, it makes great swampy looking bases for Lizardmen, Nurgle, and I guess now VC.
Rotting Flesh: is that in the standard paints range? (I mean not foundation paint or anything...) I thought I had every paint under the sun but I've never seen that lol.
Thanks for all the info CaptainSarathai. Really interesting theme you have with your army. I wanted to base mine around the Hel Fenn area which is why I wanted the swampy bases. I was just going to have a real muddy sort of look but you've compelled me to add puddles and water effects! Sounds awesome...
Can I add one more question...?
The Grave Guard banner...some awesome looking ones in the army book...I can't do any sort of free-hand painting! I'm a complete noob. Are there any transfers available like for Bretonnia...? Or something else to make it a whole lot easier? If I have to I'll just paint it a solid colour but I'd really like a massive skull on it or something!
There are actually Waterslide Transfer sheets that you can buy and have printed I believe. Don't quote me on that, because i don't know if they require any specialized equipment other than the paper.
However, you can do web searches for waterslides- I know that the nose-art designed for airplane modelers would probably work.
Finally, if you have to do it by hand, you can print a picture that you like, and trace it from the paper and then onto the banner using a pencil and some carbon paper. From there, you can carefully paint in the lines like a coloring book.
If you're good at cutting but not good at painting (freehand atleast) you can always make a stencil with an "exacto-knife" and some painter's tape. This can be frustrating if you want to run very small details, but you can use it to get a basic shape and then go back and freehand things like eyes or the lines between the teeth. I would suggest- in your case- purchasing a paint pen. I've even used sharpee pens for fine details. They work great as long as you then varnish your work.