Welcome to Librarium Online!
Hey guys. New to these forums so thought I would start off by saying hi! I'm brand new to warhammer fantasy, have been playing 40k for a few years though. I thought I would start a vc army as I want a swarm of undead. Likemost of you I assume lol. I'm thinking of having a full army made solely of skeleton warriors, grave guard, black knights and blood knghts. How well does a full skeleton army work on the table? Any tips would be appreciated thanks guys!
Skeleton armies work out fine for the most part.
Skeletons make a great core choice. Some people prefer to switch out their Light Armor and ability to take a Banner, Musician, and Armor, in favor of Ghouls, with their extra toughness, attack, and poison. But that's really only a personal choice, and Skeletons are still the most common core regiment in any vampire army (zombies models are advised, but only for casting 'Raise Dead' during the battle)
GraveGuard are one of the nastiest 'bodyguard' regiments in the game. Given a Standard-Bearer with the Banner of the Barrows, a Champion, and a Wight-King BSB with the Drakenhof Banner, they become absolutely rock hard. Often they are used to accompany a Vampire Lord, who either rounds out their killing ability, or uses them as a tank from which to wield magic.
Black Knights are good, a fluffy choice and an acceptably deadly medium cavalry regiment. There is no reason not to take them within an army.
Blood Knights are utterly devastating both to your opponent's army and to your wallet. Well worth the expense, they can hammer most regiments into the ground, but you need to be wary of opponents baiting you into worthless charges due to your Frenzy rule. Therefore, I suggest that you put Wolves into your army to provide a cheap screen from shooting, and a buffer for your Frenzy. If you really don't want to break your theme, you could use a nearby regiment or two of Black Knights, but this is quite expensive compared to throw-away wolves.
You are really only discounting the ability to use Bats as mage-hunters and Wraiths as a damage-regiment. However, this is no extreme loss, as most people choose between Wraiths or Blood Knights, and with sufficient magic, you can stop the worst of the incoming enemy spells while ignoring the rest.
Hope this helped a bit!
that helped alot!
thanks alot for your advice, im still coming to grips with the depth of wargear on offer compared to 40k
your advice on BSB and banner in GG regiment is extremely interesting
thanks once again for your reply
The Drakhenhof Banner + fairly large GG unit w/ Vamp Lord in it is often referred to as the "Death Star".. I've used it very effectively in the past. Just beware of fire, as it negates that hideously expensive Banner.
Another good combination is GG w/ Great Weapons and Banner of the Barrows, with a nearby Vamp wearing the Helm of Commandment. You'll hit on twos and mostly wound on twos.
"Is Archon Braigh-Dee going to have to choke a Wych?
Courtesy of Wicky: D.C.S.S.E.P.C.I.C.B.
yeah i've been looking at something similar to that thanks
how many skelies is "fairly large" GG unit by the way?
also im thinking of fielding my SW's in blocks of 25, only doing 1000 pt games to start with..
25 too small? too large?
25 is just about right for Skeleton Warriors if you don't intent to take the 'Lord of the Dead' power on at least 4 casting levels (either a Lord or 2 lvl2s).
"Fairly Large" GG regiments are about 20-30. The last time I witnessed a Deathstar in action, I was actually fighting against it. It was (on its own) a 1000pt regiment. It included:
Wight King BSB w/ Drakenhof Banner
Vampire Lord w/ Blood Drinker, Nightshroud, Book of Arkhan, Infinite Hatred, Red Fury, Lord of the Dead, +1 level
28 Grave Guard w/ Full Command, Banner of the Barrows
the regiment was unscathed at the end of the battle. They all had swords and shields (with the exception of the vampire, who's armor meant that I never attacked him in CC). In combat, it was a 4+ armor save, followed by a 4+ regeneration save, and then any casualties came back from the wounds inflicted by the Vampire, or were IoNed back into the regiment. It was a nasty, nasty regiment to have to fight against.