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This is just something I was wondering really since I saw someone post that they had seen zombie lists winning at tourneys (and hence that they could be quite competative).
It's also quite fun (for the vampire player at least) to just have an endless horde which triumphs through sheer weight of numbers. (c'mon...everyone who is a vampire players has contemplated at some point just spamming zombies...)
- so... is this sort of list viable? And if so, what sort of tactics should be employed to secure victory? - My initial thoughts are telling me that tantamount to victory here is to keep the zombies coming back...constantly - meaning IoN spam. Secondly, it may (not sure here) be a good idea to have a massive swarm of zombies and then just one or two hard (and I mean rock-hard) hitting units, such as Grave Guard/Black Knight, Blood Knights and so on - obviously these things eat up alot of points, so I dont really know.
I'm having a battle tommorow (1500 ) against Chaos Demons, and it might be fun to fight some of the more lunatic elements of the demons list (i'm hearing talk of a greater demon for e.g.) with some of the more spammy elements of the Vampire list haha.
Anyway, thoughts, suggestions etc?
EDIT: A quick mock-up list I made so we can see the kind of numbers we're talking about... (feel free to review it too)
Necromancer - 65
Necromancer - 65
457 Zombies - 1371
Total - 1501
Last edited by Blackadder; April 13th, 2012 at 22:15.
I dont think an all zombie list is viable. They dont hit hard enough, at least to dominate combat. You are able to tar pit with them but a experenced opponent will figure that out and send them chaff, or worse yet make them make an INIT test, with like purple sun.. Take out the Necros and the list crumbles, Dispel the IoNs and the zombies will keep falling. Zombies work best as an anvil to hold up your opponents units and then hit them in a flank with your hammer.
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First off, you have to have a minimum of 3 units. I do think that a zombie/character only list would at least be fun, so a brief example of the 2k list I just made-
Vamp Lord, 2 Vamps with 111 Zombies w/ Musician and Standard
Flanked by two units of 110 Zombies w/ musician and Standard
Basically the decked out Vamps could destroy whatever the bigger horde hits, while the other two hordes protect the flank. I'm ever tempted to turn the two flanking units into 10ish units of 5x4 zombies, and just pepper the field with them.
EDIT: Actually, yeah, 1 unit of 103 w/ the vamps, surrounded by 8 units of 26 would be super cool looking and fun.
Last edited by TypeSet1; April 14th, 2012 at 17:59.
I also think a corpse cart or 2 is necessary for the always strike first rule. not to mention the upgrades can also boost your zombie numbers.
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few things will help this list work; L2 vamp with lore of shadow,. wana be a big spender, a vamp lord with shadow(lots of points but worth it for your list, cursed book will help you out a tonne too.
What about a lvl 2 vamp with Forbidden Lore taking beast? Toughness 4 strength 4 zombies are actually quite a scary thought, especially mixed with ASF from a corpsecart
I agree with most of what has been said, but IMO this is what is necessary for an effective Zombie list:
1. As many Necros as you can possibly get (6 should do coming in under 400 points)
2. 5 units of 50 zombies with banner and one small unit of 20 (put the necros in this one) 800 ish points
3. Vampire Lord of awesomeness (red fury, master strike, flying horror, orge blad, 4+ ward, Heavy armour, enchanted shield). 400ish points
4. 2 corps carts with loadstones
have all necro's spaced out in the unit of 20 behind all the units of zombies. constantly cast summoning. Field your zombies 5 wide and 10 deep so you never loose ranks. Put the Vampire hero in the center unit of 50 or just fly him around to w/e unit he needs to be in to fight. Sit back and make the enemy come to you (unless it's a gun line. That vampire will jun show in combat an the 5 wide will deny your opponent attacks.You are sure to loose combat, but you can probably survive 2 rounds or more with each unit by themselves, giving you plenty of time for your vamp to deal a large amount of pain!
Sadly blackadder I don't think that list would be viable, lots of zombies yes, all zombies? no, you still need support, if you played against someone with lore of life, death or shadow your going to be losing a lot of zombies, far more than you can keep raising, all spells that targets a whole unit with a stat test will rape the army (even lore of slaanesh)
Wouldn't you be better off with loads of units of 20 zombies? Surely with Invoc being a bubble effect having more units makes each cast more worth while.
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Saying that it can be very effective especially in say a blood and glory game.