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Which magic items do you think are a must.
Are there certain heroes you allways give the same magic items?
Personally, ive found that Archans Book is very good.
Ive read several places on the forum, that ppl like WightLords to have sword of kings. Others give a wraith certain items.
Ive also seen that many like the Crown of the Damned. Ive never dared to use it, as I would not like an important hero to fail the check and not do what i planned. What is your opionon on that topic?
I like the Black Periapt, until the opponent figures out that he can burn his dice on spells and dispels that he can't hope to realistically cast just so that I can't snag his dice. Then I'm left playing a game of managing my own dice to carry one over.
Sometimes I'll put a cloak of shadows on a necro to keep him safe from non-magical enemies.
Book of Arkhan is becoming a must for me. And I almost always give my wight lord a sword of kings; it scares the bejeezus out of enemies. And my grave guard invariably have a banner of the barrows, which makes their to hit rolls almost as good as a blood dragon vampire lord.
The crown of the damned can be okay with high leadership characters, but I agree, it seems awful risky.
What about the VC weapons? Do any of you ever take the Frost Blade that regenerates wounds? What about Black Axe of Krell--it doesn't seem worth 50 points. And the shield that causes hate in Bretonnians in exchange for one BtB opponent losing an attack--what do you think of it?
Staff of Damnation can be really handy; it helps me take out the enemies before they have a chance to take me out. I almost prefer it over the book of arkhan.
I like both, book of Arkan and staff of of damnation equally, though getting more stuff into combat (especially newly raised zomby squads in the rear) is probably more useful than making stuff already there better. I know! take both! I play sylvannians, so any magic i can get is good for me so i've got a really magicy count in my 2000points list.
Also, is it just items we are talking abo0ut, or vampyre abilitys too?
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I always take bloodline powers no matter what bloodline i am for my lord. Their all so amazing. For magic items though i'd say:
Wraith w/ cursed book
Thrall w/ Flayed Hauberk
Count/Lord w/ Crown of the damned Great weapon & Bloodline powers
necromancer w/ book of arkhan & Dispell Scroll
all are very popular and good choices. Magic weapons for VC are pretty bad,as are the magic armours besides the hauberk. However their arcane/enchanted/talismen items are mostly very good. For your lord a great weapon is by far the best choice. If they could have halberds i would take those handsdown for the chance to strike first but since we cant have them for some reason GW's it is!
well i think this tread should primarly be about items, and not bloodlines.
The Sword of Tomb that generates skeletons is nice too. All the battles ive used it, it has generated 2 or 3 times its price in new skeletons, which frees your necros from having to cast Invocation of Nehek on that group. This in turn gives them more "offensive" dice.
The etheral armor for necros has only benefitted me once, where i was attacked by some flyers, hoping for an easy kill, even though the necro was in a unit of skellies. The armor saved the necro, and the skellies killed one flier.
Now i would rather give the necro(s) other stuf, like Book of Archan or dispell scrolls.
Ive found that my Graveguards get shot to pieces, if i dont protect them with the banner with ward save. Hence i havent really gotten to try out the banner of barrows.
I'd say taking a sword of unholy power, and using those dice for the Invocation and stopping the enemies destructive magic would be more worthwhile than the tomb blade, but don't take them as you'll need the points for other things.
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Banner of borrows is really good in black knights. Grave gaurd need the wardsave alot more since they are a missle magnet. But if your ever playing chaos or something its great on GG. The problem w/ giving a vampire lord/count a magic weapon is you gain some magic ability but against anything besides T3 troops he will be pretty sucky with only S5,and against knights/dwarves/other lords he will be horrible.
Good point, Abbadon. I've been battling armies w/o missiles lately and forgot that. I need to revise a tourney list now! Okay, so look at the topic this way: which weapons/items are the most worthless? Which do you never use?
The Frost Blade for a start; without benefit of the book, it's a toughness test or die scenario as i remember. That is quite nice but its cost means any protection items are unavailable, as are bloodline powers.
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ive tried using the bow for lahmians in 2 different battles, and it never made a kill.
I find that item terrible... eh.. gennerally, i probably play lahmians terrible.