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    Do the von carstein's still have controll over slavania, and is there any real von carstein's left? as said in the description of mannfred "As far as this history is concerned, Mannfred von Carstein, last of the Vampire Counts, perished at Hel Fenn. Long may he rest."?????????????? does that mean there is no more von carstein's?


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    It's Sylvania, not Slavania.

    Sylvan means wooded, so I guess vampires like trees.

    Did Mannfred perish? Well, there's always some necromancer around, raising up the dead and the undead. Or maybe we're playing before he died. He is an available model, after all. So maybe when you're playing Mannfred, you're reenacting that climactic battle over and over again. It's all What does it matter...it's all fluff.
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    mannfred is missing (not dead) but he may be dead (not certain).

    sylvania was scourged by the empire with help from the dwarves because earlier the empire had just jumped into the forests and got their ass kicked.

    mannfred was cut down at the battle of Hel Fenn by the count of stirland. as a reward to himself the count of stirland took control of sylvania. nobody argued as it was cursed ground. so sylvania doesnt exist anymore its part of stirland.
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    It was unknown whether Mannfed died at Hel fenn or not, it&#39;s said he was lost at the edge of the swamp when he was forced to retreat. But in the 5th ed Undead book there&#39;s a short story of a necromancer finding Mannfred&#39;s bones (yes, bones a vampire&#39;s bones) and resurrecting him. Gotrek and Felix try to stop it but don&#39;t and Mannfred escapes as a cloud, this is why it says "as far as history is concerned Mannfred died at Hel Fenn", because of course why would the "knowledgeable" scollors of the Empire believe in the tails of a known criminal?




    But yes, Sylvaina is still populated by Von Carstein vampires. They just aren&#39;t as bold as Vlad, Mannfred and Konrad was, their old castles will still be theirs and hold macabre feasts and all those vampire stuff they do.

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    i see, but, one question, it is under empire control, but there are still vamps on it??

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    it says he was the last vampire count too. i wondered about that.
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    Yes it&#39;s still under Empire&#39;s control, IIRC it&#39;s now part of Stirland or Wisenland(sp?). But as nothing there is good it&#39;s just left as it is, the soil is crap and no raw material can be gathered there.


    Mannfred was said to be the last vampire, this was from the Vampire Wars during the times of the "three Emperors".


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    so, there is no longer any vamps????? sry for my stupidity.

    tnks in advance

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    Oh no there&#39;s plenty left, but the Empire doesn&#39;t usually visit there so they don&#39;t think there is any. But sylvaina has slowly begun to be repopulatedwith the fanged predators.


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    This isn&#39;t making sense to me so far, Mannfred led a huge army from his lands in Sylvania recently during the SoC. If he is missing and Sylvania is empire then how did he manage this feet? Also there is now an army list based on the undead controlled lands of Sylvania, it is appropriately named the &#39;Army of Sylvania&#39;.

    Also, Mannfred, Vlad and Konrad are the pure line of Vampires, the leaders I guess. There are still lots of normal Von Carstein vampires roaming around besides those 3.
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