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Hi! I'm currently a vc player, a lizard man player, waiting for tyranid codex player and looking out for dwarves player. I'm playing my high elven friend who seems to want to get his whole army of archers and one unit of sword masters. AND 2 seers. This seems to offer me quite a big problem. My lowly troops are incredibly slow and can't reach him and every turn he has an enormous amount of shots.
I should probably get the book of arkhan to increase movement speed, but for all you high elven players out there, are there any weaknesses of which my shambling horde can take from the superior archer army wth some swordmasters and 4 reapter bolts AND silver helms to falnk me... thankfully he can only afford 4...
Any help will be appreciated.
2 seers, lots of archers, 4 bolt throwers, swordmasters? This looks like a lot more than 500 points... What size is it though?
High Elf archers aren't realy all that powerful, if he is wasting lots of points on them I think it is a good thing. Take a lot of magic to boost your numbers and use venhal's danse macabre, the book of arkhan will be a good idea.
High Elves have low toughness, and as I said the game can't be won from archers alone in most cases. Get to combat quickly and tie down the archers then kill them off. Us the black coach, it can smash any of them except don't send it alone against the swordmasters. Use lots of wolves, they will move quickly and get higher strength on charge to eat the elves easier. Use fell bats to get the bolt throwers, try to get as many flank charges as possible. What bloodline do you take? It is probably a good idea to give all vampires an extra hand weapon rather than great weapon against elves so you can get extra attacks, you will wound them easily enough.
Maybe this should go in the VC board? It is mainly VC tactics and army composition, even if it does ask for HE weaknesses...
I have never had any problems with HE
they ALL have T3 and pretty low armour. Swordmasters are very easy to kill.
to counter his magic you should go 2 necros + 1 vamp count and maybe a dispel scroll and you should have good enough protection until you get into CC.
good troops against his archers are etheral creatures since he can't harm them(if you dispel his magic it is). Ghouls are also very good as screeners as skirmishers and having T4
when you get to the frontline it shouldn't be much of a problem also try to hunt his mages down.
black coach can also be very good with their T6 or black knights with high armour
However the black coach will be a major target for the 4 RBTs he said he will be facing.
HE....Well. Due to their rather high Ld it may be hard for your fear to make much of an effect. And once in combat you may find it hard to win by too much CR as the 3 ranks of spears will kill quite a few.
A mage is dead once in combat, seriously easy to kill one if you can catch it, wolves eat them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Give us some more info (points, available units etc) then more help will surely follow.
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use wolves to take out RBT's
a coach can still survive pretty good even if it will be targeted by all of them. he ust hit it and he must wound it and you can heal it. and if he wastes his time on the coach he can't use his volley of darts to fire at your troops.
as long as you have more troops than him you should be able to win pretty easy
since even a zombie can kill a elf
use a vampire or two and give them the special powers such as summon wovles and bats for the von carsetein or summon ghouls from the strigoi blood line and these can flank the archer from behind he wont be excpecting that! and another thing the von carsteing power call of winds u might want to use