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A 2000pts tournament is comming up at the local GW and im a bit stuck on what to do. You see I play Strigoi, and im tired of my big guy getting owned by enemy characters. I mean this guy is suppose to be one of the meanest guys around but any character with a decent save can easily beat him. In the last tournament I played he died everytime and my big problem was trying to stop enemy tooled up characters. That was a 1500pts one and i've heard some players suggest some nasty stuff there going to bring. Now I was playing around in army builder kicking around the idea of using a different vampire. A much better character imo and only a few points more the Blood Dragon seems very good to me. I have to say I feel alittle jipped when I field my vampire. I really like the fluff of the strigoi but man does it ever piss me off how wimpy he is.
So basically is there anyway I can make my Strigoi vampire work? or is it better to just get a BD character and give him a black knight retinue.
High Elves (BloodBowl)
Warseer Blood Bowl League
Well, you know the limitations with a Strigoi. WIth no magical item options, they're a bit limited, even with the ward save. Has the regenerating power not helped?
I like BD because they can get a good armor save first of all. Modify the armor save for the worst characters you'll face, and you'll still probably have a better save, maybe 4+, than the Strigoi's ward save. Plus he can take a talisman, along with some awesome bloodline powers.
If you do go BD, I wouldn't put him in the BK unit. You'll want him to anchor your infantry lines. And in my experience, Bk tend to disappear sooner than skeletons or zombies. And BK can get kills on their own. The count's kills will help CR more for skeletons. I never put characters in BK or GG, unless it's a necromancer. Usually opponenets will think twice about going into wights after a necromancer, think more than they would if it were skeletons.
Strigoi are very strong and they really can tear appart the ranks of your opponents. I always use a count and a thrall in a 2000 pts game and I put them in my skellie units. If a character of the opponent challanges your vampire, and he strikes first, you should let your captain do the challange, unless you have a Count (but then again, if the character has killing blow, you've got a bigger problem). When a strigoi Thrall strikes last, he has a chance of losing, Your Count however should do fine if he has the Curse of the Revenant (5+ Ward save and a 4+ regeneration save after that). When he strikes first, your opponent has a big problem. 5 strength 6 attacks (when using your Count) are nasty against almost any kind of character. So Counts/Lords do very well against other characters. And they can whipe out a whole rank.
In a 1500 points game you can only use a thrall for your vampire, and Strigoi thralls tend to die quick when they get challanged and they don't strike first.
Last edited by Schidzo; May 6th, 2005 at 17:51.
They is pretty much only two ways to do a Strigoi Lord, and I like to call them either "Rank & File Killers", or "Challenge Fighters":
Rank & File Killers:
(Simple concept, hit as much as possible hurting as much as possible)
Curse of the Revenant (Regeneration)
Now, since this is the one you are asking about, let me explain. Iron Sinews is obvious, as it helps with wounding characters (lowest character is T4, some are T5) so you are wounding on 2s or 3s. Also S6 is a -3 armor save, so even 1+ saves are down to a 4+. The real trick with this is regeneration. One thing most people forget with regeneration is how it works. Let's say an ub3r lord of "I kill you" challenges, and you accept. If you are at perfect health (3 wounds) and he does a trillion wounds, and you fail a billion ward saves, when it comes to regeneration, you only roll three dice. You never roll more regenerations then you had wounds to start that round with. That means, in the worst case scenarion (1 wound left, a bazillion successful wounds done), you still have a 50/50 shot to stand back up (4+ roll). Also, any wounds regenerated don't count for combat resolution for your opponent, AND if he stands up, all overkill is lost as well. Just avoid fire, and you're golden. You may not be the strongest character out there, but you'll survive a pretty damn long time. The best thing about strigoi in challenges is just the fact you negate a lot of the characters combat resolution that he would have earned on the unit. Something like a Chaos Lord would probably get like 4 combat resolution against the unit, and only like 1 or 2 against you.
EDIT: And, if his character really is way too cool for you, and you don't want to risk it, just tie up his uber character and his unit (which odds are atleast 25% of his army if he has a tooled up lord), with a big ol' block of zombies.
Last edited by OmnipotentKiwi; May 7th, 2005 at 09:34.